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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Question for HP Tuners users on a Trifecta tune

Do you know if HP Tuners can be used over a Trifecta tune or is the tune locked somehow?

I'm thinking about learning a thing or 3 about tuning, but want to keep my stock ECM stock.

I'm running Trifecta in a second ECM.

Any insight is appreciated.

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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Ask Trifecta if they locked the ecm.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Yes, I'll do that next week if I don't get an answer here. Thanks.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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If its not locked then you can easily edit it with hptuners, but why mess with a good thing.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by peachpuff
If its not locked then you can easily edit it with hptuners, but why mess with a good thing.
To make a good thing better.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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To be able to tweak it myself for my ongoing mods.
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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On Trifectas website it used to specifically say he didn't lock the ECM.

Edit: Here it is: http://www.trifectaperformance.com/faq.aspx#Q9
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Hp tuners ftw
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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I sent Vince an email, I'll prob order HP Tuners Monday once I know for sure.

Thanks!
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Iam Broke
To be able to tweak it myself for my ongoing mods.
Then why do you need the trifecta tune? Tuning the lnf ecm is a piece of cake, there's only a couple of tables you need to understand and that's it. You can find help on the hptuners forum if needed.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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But understanding all the tables and how all the tables interact is far superior to just knowing spark and boost

Edit: And I've fixed up a few Trifecta tunes myself, so there is room to gain

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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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When I went with Trifecta last fall I didn't know I was going to get into modding the intake, exhaust, CP, ect. I thought it was a good basic tune for my DD. Now that I have learned the potential of the LNF, I want to explore the possibilities myself. Looks like I'll order up HPT and see what's what.

As I add mods, I don't want to have to pay for each retune, datalog, ect. Cars are my hobby, so I decided to go the HPT route. That's what I should have done in the first place.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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yea, I dont know anything about tuning a car but I think I want to learn and if the LNF is easy. then maybe i'll fork out the cash and wing it" By the way whats the difference between the two different HPtuner packages? and which one is more recommended, and for what reason?
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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But understanding all the tables and how all the tables interact is far superior to just knowing spark and boost

Edit: And I've fixed up a few Trifecta tunes myself, so there is room to gain
Trifecta's are good but safe but conservative. There is lots of room for improvement with them
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
Trifecta's are good but safe but conservative. There is lots of room for improvement with them
Way too rich of a tune for this car IMHO. 11.6-11.8 A/F belongs on on a port injected turbo car not a DI one.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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HP Tuners is ordered, should have it in 2-3 days.

I got an email from Trifecta saying their tune isn't locked but they cannot say if there will be any compatibility issues with his tune & other tuning software.

Time will tell.

Lots for the geek in me to learn now.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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I was able to read the trifecta tune and save the file but HPT will not open it. Bill says it's an OS compatability issue and they don't support that tune. If someone can open it or know how, please PM me. Thanks.
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