Sub'd to see what this man is talking about

 

Alright so as promised I had some free time today to partially disassemble my rear brakes and snap a few shots of the pad ends and corresponding channel they rest in. Keep in mind that these have about 8k miles on them and they still look pretty damn clean inner and outer. That's what a little upkeep can do for a car fellas..

In these shots, the circled portions are of the area that should be addressed for both sides of the pads. Although this is only of the outboard side, the channel looks basically the same both sides.




Here are a couple closer shots. Notice the grease in the channels. On mine I had some pretty noticeable rough spots in the channels that stopped the pads from moving freely in and out as they should so when I did the brake job I went the extra mile and very slightly ground the channel smooth with a die grinder and a 200 grit sanding disk just to be extra sure the pad ends slid as they needed. Sorry I have no pictures of it all though.








Here's a shot of the inboard side of the rotors. You can see some normal wear on the rotors but no scoring or gouging going on.



I try to make a habit of greasing everything just about every oil change, and I just did an oil change about 2 weeks ago. Hence the grease looking so fresh.

 

where is the retaining tension spring? removed for piks? wondering

 

lol.. yes it was removed for the pics. Actually the honest truth is, when I started disassembling everything I was getting some **** from the wife so I had to make quick work of things and just take some quick pics instead of taking everything apart and taking more in depth shots. The spring and caliper bolts just happened to be the first part I had removed and then I started snapping pics.

 

X2.... I know it may not be possible but only if we can use those big brakes from the C6 Z06 Vette... They are sexy as hell.....

 

I would like to see this happen, but r1 concepts rotors are pretty sweet....

 

good work by the way you did it right

Folks who want ginormous brakes, well.....hohum.

 

I personally think it's ridiculous to have to do all that just to deal with brakes. You shouldn't have to lube them up every oil change. Clearly something is wrong if you have to do that. No other car I know of has to do this. No VW, No Honda, No Mitsubishi, No nothing, except the Cobalt and not any Cobalt, it's literally just the LNF. Not even the Camaro SS has to do this. In fact I'm willing to bet no other GM car has to do this every oil change.

In my opinion, there's something wrong if this is normal maintenance for a Cobalt. Seems more like a bandaid fix to me.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to me this isn't normal.

I will 100% buy a better solution from ZZP

 

I personally don't want huge brakes lol
I just want a single piston brembo caliper on the rear like most cars that come with brembos lol

 

its all possible. Come see me. Bring cash. lol

 

This!

 

Let me know if this is too far off thread...I had O'plenty of searching for directional info on the stock front pads but I only found that the white arrows on the pad backing tell the story, which are not visible. So here go's...

For the Ferodo pads, does the chamfer cut into the pad material need to be on the leading edge, trailing edge, or doesn't matter (why only one side of the pad)?

 

You can have 500 hp and our brakes are perfectly fine, having bigger brakes would do nothing but lock up tires, and anything bigger in the rear would just cause rear lock up under hard breaking which is bad, if you didn't have a proportioning valve.

I highly doubt anyone aside from cmiller can outdo the brembo's on a track anyway.

Like the pictures above show, there is nothing wrong with our brakes if you maintain them. I bet 50% of the so called faulty calipers are from not greasing that channel and slide pins

Having to do maintenance, boo ******* who, go buy a honda then. If you rotate your tires every oil change(you know you are supposed to right?) then whats so hard about even using a needle to grease that slider when the wheel is already off.

You're right, it's not every ones just lazy.

 

cmiller doesn't track his car, does he? I though he was all about the 1/4 mile.

If anyone would find the limit of our brakes, it would either be Powell or wangspeed. From the sounds of it, they practically live on the track

 

Add to the party...

 

I forget which way the stock pads want the chamfer. It's just a noise thing. Not really necessary. I leave my stock ones whichever way they want it. There's an arrow on the pads. Track pads are not chamfered.

 

btw - I'd say just flip the pads one side of the car, so that the pass and driver sides are consistent. Probably more important than picking whether the chamfer is leading or trailing.

 

Thanks for the input! I'll flip the driver side and give it a try...don't have any noise now so if that starts I'll have my answer to flip back...wish I took pictures of the pads before they went in.

 

Chamfers for the stock Ferodo pads are supposed to be on the leading edge. The shims were on backwards which lead to the pad being reversed.

 

thats correct^^^ if not done right, noise will result. Some aftermarket pads are chamfered both ends, makes it hard to screw up, lol.

Gotta say the stock TC HP1000 is a very good pad for multi use including track work. Also there is a way to have a floating rear caliper (brembo if you wish) and an ebrake drum in hat. BUT it would be some work.... Here is what it could look like

( brembo caliper not installed but could be as its a floating bracket)

 

so I should have a prototype up and running towards the end of May....70 people are interested, many want to see price, so I will let you know. Full ebrake etc will be a feature of this set up with a Brembo rear caliper, NOT the LNF Brembo front caliper though. Brake balance is important....

 

70 interested 2 will buy. 68 will want a group buy but still wont pull the trigger. Because cobaltforum

 

sweet deal, excited to see a brembo rear set up. maybe some deployment money will go towards them

 

HHR SS friendly?
i have till 2016 when I leave Gohzirah land and come back to 'murika ^_^

 

funny but true...lol....I am gathering parts...