SynapseTurbo's Initial testing 365whp 359wtq
11-15-2008, 09:51 AM
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so let synapse go to the track and side step the car at 4500 on slicks and lets see how long the tranny holds pulling 1.7 or 1.6 sixty foot times
want to make any wagers guys?
and ralliartist, you have a car running 104 in the quarter, have you ever owned a high hp fwd car in your life where the tranny was on the very edge of exploding?
i am not in this to get into a pissing match, as I am considering getting this kit.
but what is the gm rated torque for this TC tranny,
I am sure its not 450 ft lb?
doing 500 hp on this tranny and USING 500 hp on this tranny are 2 very diff things
want to make any wagers guys?
and ralliartist, you have a car running 104 in the quarter, have you ever owned a high hp fwd car in your life where the tranny was on the very edge of exploding?
i am not in this to get into a pissing match, as I am considering getting this kit.
but what is the gm rated torque for this TC tranny,
I am sure its not 450 ft lb?
doing 500 hp on this tranny and USING 500 hp on this tranny are 2 very diff things
11-15-2008, 10:05 AM
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so let synapse go to the track and side step the car at 4500 on slicks and lets see how long the tranny holds pulling 1.7 or 1.6 sixty foot times
want to make any wagers guys?
and ralliartist, you have a car running 104 in the quarter, have you ever owned a high hp fwd car in your life?
to provide any accurate feedback?
That is what a TC runs in the quarter stock
want to make any wagers guys?
and ralliartist, you have a car running 104 in the quarter, have you ever owned a high hp fwd car in your life?
to provide any accurate feedback?
That is what a TC runs in the quarter stock
My car has survived 20+ 5Krpm lanuches on stock clutch, stock trans, stock axles. I would think since the TC has beefier axles and redesigned and such, that it could hold up even better.
11-15-2008, 11:15 AM
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I'm so glad a TC traps 104 on huge slicks with a conservative tune. You truly don't know what you are talking about. And yes, I've oned high hp fwd cars before. That tranny will be fine. You need to stop spreading missinformation.
My car has survived 20+ 5Krpm lanuches on stock clutch, stock trans, stock axles. I would think since the TC has beefier axles and redesigned and such, that it could hold up even better.
My car has survived 20+ 5Krpm lanuches on stock clutch, stock trans, stock axles. I would think since the TC has beefier axles and redesigned and such, that it could hold up even better.
11-15-2008, 11:46 AM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/15/m...-ss-to-371-whp *Latest story I mean
11-15-2008, 11:57 AM
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11-15-2008, 12:17 PM
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I dont get why everyone is saying its so laggy, when your roll racing you brake boost when you launch launch it off a two step that take cares of the lag on both accounts.
11-15-2008, 12:38 PM
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11-15-2008, 12:44 PM
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Morgan when are you guys goin to be putting out that exhaust your working on, my factory one wht the muffler delete is garbage, and im to lazy to weld it back on lol, actually i just want yours and dont have a bender to make my self 
11-15-2008, 12:46 PM
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Here is the updated dyno
11-15-2008, 12:53 PM
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So ralliartist,
if I or somebody else buys this kit, and we go to the track and we lauch on slicks and internals of the TC tranny go all over the starting line,
then can we send you the bill?
YOu don't even own a TC and you are saying that the tranny can hold this kind of power.
we i guess i can take your word as gospel,
then SS/TC tranny can hold well over the gm rating of torque,
I will agree with you then
if I or somebody else buys this kit, and we go to the track and we lauch on slicks and internals of the TC tranny go all over the starting line,
then can we send you the bill?
YOu don't even own a TC and you are saying that the tranny can hold this kind of power.
we i guess i can take your word as gospel,
then SS/TC tranny can hold well over the gm rating of torque,
I will agree with you then
11-15-2008, 12:55 PM
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That looks much better than the first dyno sheet way more area under the curve. It still loses a little down low, but it revs so fast who cares it is probably much kinder to the clutch than the tuned K04 because less low end torque usually means less clutch slippage likely. Please put 3" catback
or downpipe back exhaust on I want to see that and a tune for 93 octane you should have 400+ whp and torque then.
or downpipe back exhaust on I want to see that and a tune for 93 octane you should have 400+ whp and torque then.
11-15-2008, 01:36 PM
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the 3" is on go to synapseturbo.com and look at the pictures everything is on and i bet they are running 93 since they want the most power gain so unless they come on and say it 87 i would say those are very close numbers to what youll get, they are probably just smoothing it and looking for that last hidden power before kit release anyway its going to be sick and im getting it
11-15-2008, 01:40 PM
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two steps don't solve all of the lag. If the turbo is too laggy, it'll only let you build x amount of boost. X could be 2psi or 10psi or whatever.
11-15-2008, 01:40 PM
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So ralliartist,
if I or somebody else buys this kit, and we go to the track and we lauch on slicks and internals of the TC tranny go all over the starting line,
then can we send you the bill?
YOu don't even own a TC and you are saying that the tranny can hold this kind of power.
we i guess i can take your word as gospel,
then SS/TC tranny can hold well over the gm rating of torque,
I will agree with you then
if I or somebody else buys this kit, and we go to the track and we lauch on slicks and internals of the TC tranny go all over the starting line,
then can we send you the bill?
YOu don't even own a TC and you are saying that the tranny can hold this kind of power.
we i guess i can take your word as gospel,
then SS/TC tranny can hold well over the gm rating of torque,
I will agree with you then
11-15-2008, 01:44 PM
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So ralliartist,
if I or somebody else buys this kit, and we go to the track and we lauch on slicks and internals of the TC tranny go all over the starting line,
then can we send you the bill?
YOu don't even own a TC and you are saying that the tranny can hold this kind of power.
we i guess i can take your word as gospel,
then SS/TC tranny can hold well over the gm rating of torque,
I will agree with you then
if I or somebody else buys this kit, and we go to the track and we lauch on slicks and internals of the TC tranny go all over the starting line,
then can we send you the bill?
YOu don't even own a TC and you are saying that the tranny can hold this kind of power.
we i guess i can take your word as gospel,
then SS/TC tranny can hold well over the gm rating of torque,
I will agree with you then
thank you for posting....it's nice to have some backup sometimes. I like to think that I know what I'm talking about sometimes, especially when i've been through most of the BS stuff that's been stated on these forums. everything from blown engines, to blown clutches, to blown transmissions, blah blah blah. Just because I didn't experience it all on the cobalt, doesn't mean that I haven't been through it.
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11-15-2008, 01:51 PM
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the 3" is on go to synapseturbo.com and look at the pictures everything is on and i bet they are running 93 since they want the most power gain so unless they come on and say it 87 i would say those are very close numbers to what youll get, they are probably just smoothing it and looking for that last hidden power before kit release anyway its going to be sick and im getting it
11-15-2008, 01:56 PM
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I figured this is worth posting, as this same thread is going on over on the RLF forums.
Can peole answer the question? yes
What is different between the LSJ block and the LNF block?????
nothing
Are the internals more forged???? no, the same
Are the pistons better?no, the same
Do the heads flow better? no, they both have 90 degree angles in them and flow like **** Any numbers to prove that?no, but they are the same flow, only difference is one is direct injection and one is fuel injection
Does anyone actually know what the difference here? For a while, i thought the reason the LNF was making so much more power was because it was just simply direct injection, but that's not the case now. The reason it "tends" to make more power than a LSJ stock for stock and mildy modded is because the turbo flows more than the m62 and the DI motor can run at leaner A/F ratios, thus making more power. If you were to swap on everything that the LNF comes with, exept the intake manifold as you would need a custom one, lets say you got Hahns turbo intake manifold, then you would probably make very identical hp/tq. With tuning, both the LNF and LSJ with the same exact turbo setup, would probably be identical numbers.
Because it would end a hell of alot of arguing wouldnt it? :fight:
What is different between the LSJ block and the LNF block?????
nothing
Are the internals more forged???? no, the same
Are the pistons better?no, the same
Do the heads flow better? no, they both have 90 degree angles in them and flow like **** Any numbers to prove that?no, but they are the same flow, only difference is one is direct injection and one is fuel injection
Does anyone actually know what the difference here? For a while, i thought the reason the LNF was making so much more power was because it was just simply direct injection, but that's not the case now. The reason it "tends" to make more power than a LSJ stock for stock and mildy modded is because the turbo flows more than the m62 and the DI motor can run at leaner A/F ratios, thus making more power. If you were to swap on everything that the LNF comes with, exept the intake manifold as you would need a custom one, lets say you got Hahns turbo intake manifold, then you would probably make very identical hp/tq. With tuning, both the LNF and LSJ with the same exact turbo setup, would probably be identical numbers.
Because it would end a hell of alot of arguing wouldnt it? :fight:
11-15-2008, 02:29 PM
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Btw, GM did over 600 5000RPM launches on a stock ss/tc just to prove it could handle the constant beating, so no more BS about the clutch or tranny can't take it ok? I can't imagine a funner job in the world, sit there and launch a car 600 times in a row 
ohhhh yeaaa
ohhhh yeaaa
11-15-2008, 02:35 PM
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11-15-2008, 02:41 PM
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11-15-2008, 03:07 PM
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thank you marcusicp
you can lauch the stock TC 1 million times at 260 hp and not have it break
at 400+ hp is a very diff senario.
but lets bury this tranny discussion, as this is synapse thread to showcase their product........
you can lauch the stock TC 1 million times at 260 hp and not have it break
at 400+ hp is a very diff senario.
but lets bury this tranny discussion, as this is synapse thread to showcase their product........
11-15-2008, 03:33 PM
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