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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:53 AM
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What will happen if the dealer reflashes the ECM when the car goes in for service?
Then flash it back
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Then flash it back
Then wouldn't I have to get the data cable shipped all over again?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 03:01 AM
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Then wouldn't I have to get the data cable shipped all over again?
Yes but I don't have to worry about that
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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I guess I could just buy the cable.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 03:04 AM
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i doubt they will re-flash it...
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cardelino18
i doubt they will re-flash it...
I agree, but the possibilty is there!
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cardelino18
i doubt they will re-flash it...
Unless they have a recall for the flash like they had for the ss/sc. If my memory is correct, the ss/sc had to get another flash for some reason.

Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
The ECM will return the "stock" CVNs regardless of whether its in comp or normal mode when scanned.



I simply read the dealer's bulletin for checking for aftermarket flashes. Our new tune will pass this test.
I am going to have to say vince your the MAN!

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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hunter19707
What will happen if the dealer reflashes the ECM when the car goes in for service?
That will wipe out our tune, BUT they should have no reason to do this since our tune includes the latest updates from GM (the tech2 won't reflash the ECM with the same calibration the ECM has).

Now if GM releases a new factory tune down the road they might try to put the new tune on the ECM - if this happens we can get the tuner/cable back out to the customer to restore the custom tune.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Is there a price on this yet vince? And when will it be avaliable? Also can you or someone of your peeps that work for you explain to me how all this is done?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Your some what on track, but a lot of the members of this forum their parents bought them their car. So they will try to get warranty work on stuff they knew they caused to fail. I've seen it happen. But it would be stupid to void the warranty if you had different bulbs in your car and your tail lights burned out. Dealers are no where near innocent at all, so you shouldn't cut them slack anyways. I've blown 16 map sensors now on my 09 ss with 4k mi with a k&n filter that is all. They have been nothing but try to treat me like ****. They offered to swap my car for a new one since they cant fix the car but wanted me to pay $1,408 to do so. My favorite part is the ***** general manager goes "Even if we gave you a new cobalt, your driving would blow that map sensor too." all I could say was I forgot I bought an aveo and not a cobalt ss. **** Stonebriar Chevy and **** all dealerships. Just claim everything you can :P
I don't usually comment on stuff like this, but, this totally sucks, man. I'm really sorry this happened to you. I know we've talked about this issue on the phone a few times, just let me know if there's anything I can do.

In fact I can probably patch up the tune so it doesn't complain about the MAP sensor anymore. ;-)

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Is there a price on this yet vince? And when will it be avaliable? Also can you or someone of your peeps that work for you explain to me how all this is done?
The new tune is available now both through Clear Image Automotive for mail order and through our local dealers - just check with them for pricing.

Is there something specific you'd like me to explain or do you want me to just review the new tune features?

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Unless they have a recall for the flash like they had for the ss/sc. If my memory is correct, the ss/sc had to get another flash for some reason.
They actually already released a new tune for the SS/TC - it was available by the time the car hit the showrooms. Like releasing Windows software to market, once they decide to do this with the car they may continue working on the ECM tune and refining it while manufacturing builds the car with the theory in mind that the dealer will update the car before it is sold.

Sometimes this happens, sometimes it does not. But all of our tunes start with the very latest factory flash and we build on top of it so anybody that didn't have the latest flash before, will, after they buy our tune

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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
I don't usually comment on stuff like this, but, this totally sucks, man. I'm really sorry this happened to you. I know we've talked about this issue on the phone a few times, just let me know if there's anything I can do.

In fact I can probably patch up the tune so it doesn't complain about the MAP sensor anymore. ;-)



The new tune is available now both through Clear Image Automotive for mail order and through our local dealers - just check with them for pricing.

Is there something specific you'd like me to explain or do you want me to just review the new tune features?
No, how its installed. That is what I need/want to know!
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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No, how its installed. That is what I need/want to know!
Oh, lol.

We offer our tune through two different channels - you can find a local dealer that can install it for you using their equipment (laptop, software, and programming cable) or you can order it from Clear Image Automotive and we will send you either a handheld programmer that you download the tune to the car with (or a programming cable if you have your own laptop computer). When you're finished with the equipment you ship it back (using the prepaid return shipping label) and you're good to go.

In either case, we program the ECM through the diagnostic port.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Vince,
Can I still mess with my ECM with your tune on it..
I have HPTuner & enjoy tweaking the little things on the ECM.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Oh, lol.

We offer our tune through two different channels - you can find a local dealer that can install it for you using their equipment (laptop, software, and programming cable) or you can order it from Clear Image Automotive and we will send you either a handheld programmer that you download the tune to the car with (or a programming cable if you have your own laptop computer). When you're finished with the equipment you ship it back (using the prepaid return shipping label) and you're good to go.

In either case, we program the ECM through the diagnostic port.
Ok sounds easy enough. I will try and see if anyone around Michigan can do this before I do it my self. And this tune is the one where we push comp mode and go crazy stupid fast right? Or are there 3 tunes or did you decide on just the 2?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000Firehawk
Vince,
Can I still mess with my ECM with your tune on it..
I have HPTuner & enjoy tweaking the little things on the ECM.
Never been tested (that I know of), but in theory our new tune should be compatible with HPT.

Of course any other tuning solution does not know how to edit our alternate tune tables, but we structured the select-a-tune mod so the stock tables were in a new location and the "custom" tables were in the stock location so users of other tuning solutions could still take advantage of select-a-tune and hide-a-tune.

Originally Posted by KillerBee
Ok sounds easy enough. I will try and see if anyone around Michigan can do this before I do it my self. And this tune is the one where we push comp mode and go crazy stupid fast right? Or are there 3 tunes or did you decide on just the 2?
For now it is just two - the other thread there was mention of three, but that was our brainstorming thread. We could add more tunes to the ECM if we wanted - there's definitely space available.

You can have the custom tune triggered by any one or combination of the following:

Cruise control master enable turned off
Competition mode on
ESC off

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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Damm....

The best of both worlds.. :
like having your cake & eating it too...#one:

Vince = LNF software God...
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000Firehawk
Damm....

The best of both worlds.. :
like having your cake & eating it too...#one:

Vince = Cobalt software God...
fixed
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Hi Vince, I put an order in through Clear Image Automotive last night for the new tune. How long do I get to use the data cable. The reason I ask is that I need to install my CIA dp still. Hard to get the time with 3 kids one of them being 3 weeks old.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hunter19707
Hi Vince, I put an order in through Clear Image Automotive last night for the new tune. How long do I get to use the data cable. The reason I ask is that I need to install my CIA dp still. Hard to get the time with 3 kids one of them being 3 weeks old.
Congrats on the newborn! Must have you hands full. Lol

When you have a chance, send me some email, we'll discuss there...
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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Vince, how does/will the dyno tuning work; i read that we can data log the tune on a dyno and you will fine tune it? Do you think doing this would make the overall outcome of the tune that much better or not a significant difference?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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2 Questions..


1. How do you put the car into comp mode? Is there a switch or something? I think this may be a feature of the SS/TC but I'm a 2.2 owner so I'm not entirely familiar with the LNF cars.


2. Would some kind of switchabl programming be available for the 2.2 in the future?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hunter19707
Hi Vince, I put an order in through Clear Image Automotive last night for the new tune. How long do I get to use the data cable. The reason I ask is that I need to install my CIA dp still. Hard to get the time with 3 kids one of them being 3 weeks old.
Hahah modding the family truckster FTW! My 2 year old tells me FASTER DAD ,FASTER.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Psytocrophic
Vince, how does/will the dyno tuning work; i read that we can data log the tune on a dyno and you will fine tune it? Do you think doing this would make the overall outcome of the tune that much better or not a significant difference?
All custom tune orders from us include data analysis (datalogging and/or dyno charts) and follow-up tuning as part of the tuning fee.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
I don't see why people try to warranty there modded car. If you can't afford to mod your car, and blow up, then you shouldn't be modding your car.
EXACTLY


Originally Posted by sponge14
I think it's funny how there are still all the nay-sayers.

Vince has the tune setup to give the Tech 2 scanner your stock ECM calibration codes while still allowing the ECM to self diagnose itself.

So other then the Tech 2 scanner, how are you going to determine a tune?

They will send the control module back to GM (or bosch) if they suspect tampering. I'm not against tunes or modding your car , I just think people need to man up when something breaks because of it.

You say how safe this is ....... Does anyone really know what these motor's are gunna look like after 100K miles with a tune??? Sure no one has had a problem yet but there has to be a trade off in engine or turbo life. I'm fine with it , I'll be getting some form of tune soon too.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tonio5555
2 Questions..


1. How do you put the car into comp mode? Is there a switch or something? I think this may be a feature of the SS/TC but I'm a 2.2 owner so I'm not entirely familiar with the LNF cars.


2. Would some kind of switchabl programming be available for the 2.2 in the future?
Yes, the SS/TC has a traction control button

We could do this on the 2.2, also
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