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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
All custom tune orders from us include data analysis (datalogging and/or dyno charts) and follow-up tuning as part of the tuning fee.
I think what im trying to ask is what would you recommend for the best overall outcome of the tune datalogging vs dyno charts
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
EXACTLY





They will send the control module back to GM (or bosch) if they suspect tampering. I'm not against tunes or modding your car , I just think people need to man up when something breaks because of it.

You say how safe this is ....... Does anyone really know what these motor's are gunna look like after 100K miles with a tune??? Sure no one has had a problem yet but there has to be a trade off in engine or turbo life. I'm fine with it , I'll be getting some form of tune soon too.
The hide-a-tune will pass the dealership's check but beyond that who knows.

Originally Posted by Psytocrophic
I think what im trying to ask is what would you recommend for the best overall outcome of the tune datalogging vs dyno charts
Sorry for my misunderstanding, thanks for the clarification.

Datalogging AND dyno charts are going to give us the best possible result. Datalogs do not tell us how much power the engine is making, only if the tune appears to be running correctly.

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I don't see why people try to warranty there modded car. If you can't afford to mod your car, and blow up, then you shouldn't be modding your car.

EXACTLY
I tell people this, also. Hide-a-tune is really meant to deal with dealerships that are essentially overstepping their boundaries trying to invalidate warranties strictly on the basis of there being a tune on the car (which to my understanding is illegal anyway).

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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Hahah modding the family truckster FTW! My 2 year old tells me FASTER DAD ,FASTER.
My 3 and 5 year old tell me the same thing!
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Thank you vince, ill be getting your tune sometime soon here
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Vince, since I see you lurking around in here dropping knowledge bombs as usual...

If I don't get the switchable programs with my tune, and always have your performance tune on, will it register legit on the Tech 2 scans? Or do I need your flip tune, put it into 'stock' mode, then take it in for work for it to be stealth?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sponge14
Vince, since I see you lurking around in here dropping knowledge bombs as usual...

If I don't get the switchable programs with my tune, and always have your performance tune on, will it register legit on the Tech 2 scans? Or do I need your flip tune, put it into 'stock' mode, then take it in for work for it to be stealth?
LOL - I had a few free moments to get on the forums this morning.

Regardless of how the new tune is configured (switchable or not) it will always report as a stock tune to the tech2.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Vince,
Can I still mess with my ECM with your tune on it..
I have HPTuner & enjoy tweaking the little things on the ECM.
I am broke tried to tweak his trifecta tuned ECM, but because it is a custom OS HP Tuners software cannot read it.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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I am broke tried to tweak his trifecta tuned ECM, but because it is a custom OS HP Tuners software cannot read it.
hmm... no bueno if you decide to go with another tuning route down the road...
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
I am broke tried to tweak his trifecta tuned ECM, but because it is a custom OS HP Tuners software cannot read it.
That's the old tune. The new one should not have this problem
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Vince just wanted to clarify what CIA said on the other thread. If the data cable purchased for personal data logging use, you will be able to OCCASIONALLY fine tune the tune on the SC, correct?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by THRcobalt07
Vince just wanted to clarify what CIA said on the other thread. If the data cable purchased for personal data logging use, you will be able to OCCASIONALLY fine tune the tune on the SC, correct?
Yes, we're really flexible about that sort of thing. Believe it or not but we love to see datalogs because the more data we have the better job we can do.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Yes, the SS/TC has a traction control button

We could do this on the 2.2, also
Very very interesting. Since the 2.2 (at least the 05-06) does not have a t/c button, how would one be able to switch 'tunes.' Could some kind of manual switch be involved or some kind of 'command' like altering tht GM Stage 3 tune for the LSJ cars.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tonio5555
Very very interesting. Since the 2.2 (at least the 05-06) does not have a t/c button, how would one be able to switch 'tunes.' Could some kind of manual switch be involved or some kind of 'command' like altering tht GM Stage 3 tune for the LSJ cars.
We could trigger off the cruise control master enable, if the car has one.

There are other options, too, like using an unused input at the ECM.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Yes, we're really flexible about that sort of thing. Believe it or not but we love to see datalogs because the more data we have the better job we can do.
This is great news. I could never understand why people would spend so much money having their car re-tuned by some guy on a dyno every time something changed.

Also there would be 2 modes for the SC, correct? I noticed that one of the ways you said you can switch the tunes in the TC is through the cruise control, so I'm assuming it can be setup the same in that aspect.

Appreciate the info Vince

noticed an answer to my question in your post previous to this about the cruise control so nvm
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by THRcobalt07
This is great news. I could never understand why people would spend so much money having their car re-tuned by some guy on a dyno every time something changed.

Also there would be 2 modes for the SC, correct? I noticed that one of the ways you said you can switch the tunes in the TC is through the cruise control, so I'm assuming it can be setup the same in that aspect.

Appreciate the info Vince

noticed an answer to my question in your post previous to this about the cruise control so nvm
We are investigating doing hide-a-tune and select-a-tune on the SC also. I've received a fair number of inquiries about this.

We also want to add launch control to those cars as well. Looks like I've got my fall projects mapped out. Lol
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Launch control would be quite amazing!!! I've been looking at the WOT 2-step box thing and I'm not 100% sold on it, so if you ended up doing this I am definitely a future customer
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by THRcobalt07
Launch control would be quite amazing!!! I've been looking at the WOT 2-step box thing and I'm not 100% sold on it, so if you ended up doing this I am definitely a future customer
Works on my '08 Corvette, and has been tested on '06 LE5 and '07 L61... Just need to write the code for the LSJ.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I was thinking of getting an intake at the same time that I got you hida-a-tune. My question is if im still running my stock tune on the sri then wont I have issues with the maf readings being skewed while not in comp/tune mode??
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Works on my '08 Corvette, and has been tested on '06 LE5 and '07 L61... Just need to write the code for the LSJ.
Well when you get it all figured out and need a tester for it. I will gladly volunteer!!!!
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 09BlueBaltSS
I was thinking of getting an intake at the same time that I got you hida-a-tune. My question is if im still running my stock tune on the sri then wont I have issues with the maf readings being skewed while not in comp/tune mode??
The select-a-tune only substitutes some of the tables and the ones we change to address MAF skewing are not changed between tunes so this is not a problem.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta

When you're finished with the equipment you ship it back (using the prepaid return shipping label) and you're good to go.

In either case, we program the ECM through the diagnostic port.
Vince, why is this cable so expensive?

OT...I just installed Hahn's CAI and noticed my boost is not ramping up past 12psi...is this the ECU compensating for extra flow? I'm hoping your tune will overcome this...or did I screw up the install?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Vince, why is this cable so expensive?
I don't know, I guess you'll have to ask the people that sell them to me why they charge so much. Lol

Jokes aside, this is not just a straight-through cable that has an OBD2 connector on one end and a USB connector on the other. There is a microcontroller, microcode, ROM, RAM, and a bunch of circuitry (in other words, it's a full computer itself) that converts OBD2ese to USBese.

Also, there are cheap OBD2 cables out there but they cannot be used for reflash, only data acquisition. Reflash has special requirements in the cable (buffering, etc)

Until they start putting CAN/J1850VPW ports on PCs (which will probably never happen, at a reasonable price anyway) we'll need to continue to use these devices.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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I understand...thanks for the explanation Vince...any thoughts regarding my OT question?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy

OT...I just installed Hahn's CAI and noticed my boost is not ramping up past 12psi...is this the ECU compensating for extra flow? I'm hoping your tune will overcome this...or did I screw up the install?
Interestingly enough, from what I can tell the boost gauge is NOT driven by actual manifold pressure. It seems to be some sort of calculation based on airflow so if the airflow numbers are skewed, the boost gauge will be skewed.

So you may actually have 20psi of boost but it only reads 12psi because that's all the airflow the ECM thinks is going into the engine (before trim adjustment)
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Interestingly enough, from what I can tell the boost gauge is NOT driven by actual manifold pressure. It seems to be some sort of calculation based on airflow so if the airflow numbers are skewed, the boost gauge will be skewed.

So you may actually have 20psi of boost but it only reads 12psi because that's all the airflow the ECM thinks is going into the engine (before trim adjustment)
Yes, the boost gauge uses a calculated value not actual manifold pressure but I think what he is experiencing is that the ECM is reaching its desired airloads more easly due to the increase airflow the intake should provide. So, for it to see 150% airload for example it might have to boost only 10 psi instead of 13 psi.
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