Yeah and then you will never hear from them on a revision, at least I didn't.

 

Then HP tuners is better?

 

Ho tuners with a good tuner is way better. It really depends on what you want out of the car and how hard you drive it. Trifecta is ok if you want 300 hp even though their fuel trims are off. I just wanted a lot more out of my car and wanted it to run well.