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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Would making the powerband come in quicker ruin the lifespan of the clutch?

Lets say the clutch can hold up to 400ft/lbs and the car has 375ft/lbs
Would making the boost come all at once ruin the clutch? Even if you're not at the full power the clutch can handle?

Because right now, my boost comes in soft to save the clutch (stock clutch)
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nuke
Would making the powerband come in quicker ruin the lifespan of the clutch?

Lets say the clutch can hold up to 400ft/lbs and the car has 375ft/lbs
Would making the boost come all at once ruin the clutch? Even if you're not at the full power the clutch can handle?

Because right now, my boost comes in soft to save the clutch (stock clutch)
If you tap glass with a hammer it is going to crack and break slowly.
If you smash it with a hammer it is going to shatter to bits immediately.

Similar idea. The harder torque hits, the more pressure on wear parts.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
If you tap glass with a hammer it is going to crack and break slowly.
If you smash it with a hammer it is going to shatter to bits immediately.

Similar idea. The harder torque hits, the more pressure on wear parts.
That is the best answer ever! HAHA

Thanks!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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So it's in the tuner not in the tuning platform.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Exactly. And trifecta only has one tuner...
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
Did I say HPT would not wear a part? no.
HP because there are far far far more options and tuners that can tune your car to run like a raped ape without lightswitching the tune. It is all about being smooth.
My trifecta tune runs smooth as butter? Never had an issue after data logging back and forth with Vince.

I didn't quote you, I quoted two people in my post. Regardless, the tune isn't the problem as the clutch is made to handle gms1 power, regardless of where it comes in.

Buddy in the vancouver club went from stock to hp tuned and his car slipped right away, conservative slope into full boost as well. He has 100k and lots of drag strip passes though. So, wear.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
My trifecta tune runs smooth as butter? Never had an issue after data logging back and forth with Vince.

I didn't quote you, I quoted two people in my post. Regardless, the tune isn't the problem as the clutch is made to handle gms1 power, regardless of where it comes in.

Buddy in the vancouver club went from stock to hp tuned and his car slipped right away, conservative slope into full boost as well. He has 100k and lots of drag strip passes though. So, wear.
It could very well be the tune also...
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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It's not the platform. It's the tuner, the driver, or the clutch is not rated for it. If we're talking about OP still the way he describes hammering on it. Maybe it's his driving. Have to be progressive with that gas pedal, and in the right rpm.
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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I had a trifecta tune. Slid the clutch left and right. Throttle in 4th and especially 5th were just useless. I was shopping for clutches.

Changed to a Term2 tune. Never again slid the clutch. Not in over 100 drag strip passes. And not in the full season of AutoXing and road courses that followed that.

Wear? Suddenly disappeared? Don't think so. the car still had the stock clutch when I trade it in. A full 2 seasons AFTER my trifecta tune had me shopping for clutches.

I likewise had no problem with Vince. Nice guy. treated me well. Was extremely responsive to my emails. But there is no denying that tune was not good for that car.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sox-Fan
I had a trifecta tune. Slid the clutch left and right. Throttle in 4th and especially 5th were just useless. I was shopping for clutches.

Changed to a Term2 tune. Never again slid the clutch. Not in over 100 drag strip passes. And not in the full season of AutoXing and road courses that followed that.

Wear? Suddenly disappeared? Don't think so. the car still had the stock clutch when I trade it in. A full 2 seasons AFTER my trifecta tune had me shopping for clutches.

I likewise had no problem with Vince. Nice guy. treated me well. Was extremely responsive to my emails. But there is no denying that tune was not good for that car.
Went through the same type of problem. You have to pay to play.
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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I have been running Trifecta tune on my stock clutch for 80k miles now. Mine does not slip.

My secret: I don't WOT the car on tune until 3800 RPM.
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thejobman
I have been running Trifecta tune on my stock clutch for 80k miles now. Mine does not slip.

My secret: I don't WOT the car on tune until 3800 RPM.
I would damn near bet a large sum of money Sox didn't go wot before 3500
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 10:22 PM
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I ran stock clutch f0 for 65k kms, no slip, had to replace motor, so I upgraded clutch due to wanting more power in future.
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
I would damn near bet a large sum of money Sox didn't go wot before 3500
I think the point is that results vary. Just because one person has a bad experience does not mean all will, and the logic applies vice versa.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sox-Fan
I had a trifecta tune. Slid the clutch left and right. Throttle in 4th and especially 5th were just useless. I was shopping for clutches.

Changed to a Term2 tune. Never again slid the clutch. Not in over 100 drag strip passes. And not in the full season of AutoXing and road courses that followed that.

Wear? Suddenly disappeared? Don't think so. the car still had the stock clutch when I trade it in. A full 2 seasons AFTER my trifecta tune had me shopping for clutches.

I likewise had no problem with Vince. Nice guy. treated me well. Was extremely responsive to my emails. But there is no denying that tune was not good for that car.
Sounds like a driver mod, clutch slipping in 4th and 5th tells me you are mashing the gas below 4000rpm, which anyone is told not to do in high powered cars.

Just because your hp tuner tuned out all your power to hit above that doesn't mean its trifectas fault, but good try.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
Sounds like a driver mod, clutch slipping in 4th and 5th tells me you are mashing the gas below 4000rpm, which anyone is told not to do in high powered cars.

Just because your hp tuner tuned out all your power to hit above that doesn't mean its trifectas fault, but good try.
You're ******* kidding me. You have to be.

I'm not even going to answer to this stupidity.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
Sounds like a driver mod, clutch slipping in 4th and 5th tells me you are mashing the gas below 4000rpm, which anyone is told not to do in high powered cars.

Just because your hp tuner tuned out all your power to hit above that doesn't mean its trifectas fault, but good try.
You are as dumb as you are stupid.

Load your brain before you fire off your mouth.
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 03:38 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:01 PM
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Yo Sox, I heard you need to learn how to drive!
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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Every post that kid throws out all I hear is "Meep Meep". Absolutle nonsense and retardation. He has a hard time grasping the concept of reading and replying back with relative information, give him a break guys!
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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You're ******* kidding me. You have to be.

I'm not even going to answer to this stupidity.
Everyone can suck on your nutts all they want, everyones a keyboard warrior right?

answer the question, did your clutch start slipping below 4000rpm in 4th or 5th gear?

Only reason my clutch started slipping... nls at the drag strip in 30 degree weather.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sox-Fan
I had a trifecta tune. Slid the clutch left and right. Throttle in 4th and especially 5th were just useless. I was shopping for clutches.

Changed to a Term2 tune. Never again slid the clutch. Not in over 100 drag strip passes. And not in the full season of AutoXing and road courses that followed that.

Wear? Suddenly disappeared? Don't think so. the car still had the stock clutch when I trade it in. A full 2 seasons AFTER my trifecta tune had me shopping for clutches.

I likewise had no problem with Vince. Nice guy. treated me well. Was extremely responsive to my emails. But there is no denying that tune was not good for that car.
i have a trifecta tune and stock clutch, as long as im going through the gear and not lugging the car no slip what so ever, car dynoed at 310whp 340wt. dont see how a clutch can go from slipping in 4th and 5th to not slipping unless the car is making less power with the new tune.

either your have a magical car or your just bullshitting and have it out for trifecta.

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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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OR... The new tune was better for wear and tear on the car. Meaning everything up top was the same but it was tuned more conservative down low. A boost ramp can do multiple things for wear and tear of a clutch. Torque management, Air load, and other factors come into play, but do we need to get technical?

I had a trifecta tune for 4 months and mine got shot to hell. I beat the hell out of my car too. Who cares though. It's a car and **** breaks and they make replacement parts everyday all day.


I cant take anything m33pm3pp says serious though. The dude has a quote from the almighty CCSS3 and his wonderful spelling and sentence structure. Bravo to you.
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wert842
OR... The new tune was better for wear and tear on the car. Meaning everything up top was the same but it was tuned more conservative down low. A boost ramp can do multiple things for wear and tear of a clutch. Torque management, Air load, and other factors come into play, but do we need to get technical?

I had a trifecta tune for 4 months and mine got shot to hell. I beat the hell out of my car too. Who cares though. It's a car and **** breaks and they make replacement parts everyday all day.
if it wa the tuning down low that was the difference then it is an obvious driver mod and he was lugging the car.

ive had my tune for about a year and a half, ive auto x and have gone down the 1/4 mile a couple times, everything seems fine.

put it in 4th at 2500rpm and floor it.... clutch is going to slip...
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