cmiller and d-mac have optimal drag setups....they both run powell mounts last i checked.......cmillers travel limiters help a ton too.

 

You're free to believe what you want to not gonna start an efight over it I'm just going by my experience with the ttr mounts and off of first hand problems i've heard with the ott mounts.

How am I being a dick? Look how many people buy ott mounts and still complain about wheel hop. No wonder I haven't tried them out. I'm just stating a trend, I never said your products are **** or worthless I'm just speaking from my personal experience and learning from others first hand experiences. No need to come in and call me a dick because your product still hops. I'm not going to get in a pissing match about it, it is what it is. I understand they did pretty much steal the idea and you're sour about it and will put them down any chance you can because of it but that's not my problem nor the problem of the owners who are still hopping cause they boarded the train.

 

trooooof

 

i dont run slicks bags or any of that i did my runs on factory 18's and street tires. I bought the mounts because it was said they got rid of hop, and from my experience i hopped worse. this season i have a few things up my sleeve to help my issues

 

Nope the stop mounts did the hop in for me.

 

not e fighting with you...just saying i had ttr mounts they hopped....if i had drag vids you would see too lol.

 

basically a rotated mount will help reduce power hop. It wont eleiminate it at the drag strip. The TTR mounts use a poly insert which creates a lot of vibration you may not like. The Powell mounts or OTT (same thing save the insert) have less vibration. Its up to you how much vibration you can handle. The solid racing mounts we made for all the Grand Am race cobalts vibrated awful. (see the GMR build book) It didnt matter for a race car. You may find it a different story on the street.

 

something else that makes me lol......ttr mounts are suppose to rotate the engine like the powell mounts correct? so their engine mount is a stock replacement with a poly bushing correct? well the engine mount is limiting the rotation therefore=failure of some product down the road.

 

they did help me on the street not so much so at the track. Danew had some issues with his as well. Unfortunately these cars are all fail wheel drive so i dont foresee being able to "get rid of hop"

 

To be fair I never dragged on them yet, only street so I can't comment on that.

Actually the ttr mounts don't really vibe,

quoting qwikredline "wtf do you know you don't have them"

 

i had hop doing a highway pull...but then again i put down more power then a lot of cars.

 

i have YOUR mounts not the one offs from the other guys they were your original ones that i paid alot of money for so if my cv joints are in misalignment "still" then what do you suppose is causing that? hmm

 

Thanks for the reply.. lots of fighting for what?? haha.. I think the biggest thing I am looking for is a setup that will be good not only for straight line runs but more for autocross type of driving... so I am looking for the best "all around" mount...

then again... I may be looking for something that's truly not needed though.. I mean hell, this car is the fastest in its class (in the world) at the nurburghring for a reason... maybe I should be satisfied with what I have too hahaha

 

^^hehe maybe youre right.. but i read thru this thread an its hard to pull much info outta the pissin contest goin on here lol I don't plan on goin to the strip much untill I get my power an all that where I want it, but all my MaZda S3p guys keep tellin me to grab some mounts lol are they uncomfortably bad with daily driving? I've heard a lotta good stuff bout the powell mounts, but it sounds like I cant afford em yet lol so TTr or OTt...

Can I get some ACTUAL info with these?
Pros an cons?

 

basically heres what i have gathered and after this i will be out of this thread..

powell mounts

good source of helping with wheel hop(some have problems some dont)
better design and craftmanship
lighter weight
original design
billet aluminum
puts the axles in the correct alignment

only cons i have seen are some people still have issues with wheel hop.

ttr mounts.....

polyurethane bushing(thats a negative in my book but to some its not)
apparently rotates the engine
- if they do however rotate the engine i didnt notice where as my powell mounts are noticeable.... But i dont recommend using and sort of rotated mount with their upper mount as it is a replacement for the stock mount. rotated engine mounts with a upper mount that keep the motor firmly is place is going to cause unwanted stress elseware.
- copy
- overall the construction doesnt seem to be bad BUT i dont know what they are made out of.

theres a thread on these too...ill find the link.

 

out of curiousity this is a question for john. Were the mounts designed on a car that was on factory springs? if so being lowered could cause the cv shafts to not be aligned as well? Just trying to find some insight to my hop issue

 

right, post a link to an obviously sour and biased thread. real pro.
oh the nutswinging.

 

no im simply posted that just because theres good information in the 1st post only...... didnt realize the pics were deleted until now though. nothing biased about it. just dont read the entire thread.

so again before you start being a dick head keep your snooty little comments to yourself.

 

Nothing biased, that's funny. OP being the sour manufacturer kinda seems biased from the beginning. Not to mention breaking things that don't matter and raising it up like it's important. Claiming vibrations out the yang when there are virtually none. Still having wheel hop after touting elimination. Whatever this community is a bunch of nutswingers to a name. I'll buy the best parts you can continue to buy into a name to try and be cool on the internet though.

 

no im saying you calling me biased over posting a link makes me laugh but i woul dbe saltly as hell if people copied my products. information is information. sure i am biased to certain companies like je pistons, percision turbo, childs and albert(extremely high end rotating assemblys) etc etc etc. no one else has done a comparison of the sort so i figured what the hell post it. maybe its different on the redline but i know i had quite a bit of vibration with the stock motor mount and ttr mounts when they were on mine and im not saying that because i have powell mounts either or other products from him because i have tried the ttr stuff first usually because i was given a better deal from ttr. well cheaper doesnt always mean best but at the same time being the most expensive doesnt make them the best.

i would love to see a comparison for the ttr sway bar vs ottp/powell hardcore and or street bars. ive had both on my car and it says enough what i have stuck with due to one causing me snap oversteer and after seeing multiple cars on here with a warped bar? hmmm. needless to say why it was pulled from their production line(as far as i know)

 

I never said ttr had a better sway bar. I said I buy the parts I feel are the best available. Whereof there is plenty of proof that prs has the superior product in that department. If I wanted to buy a rear sway I would get that. But I don't see how bringing a sway bar correlates to rotated mounts.

It's understandable for sure I'd be mad too, but I feel as if they did it better and there's no need to come into threads and single people out as dicks and spread misinformation because of it. Personally like I said I have virtually no vibrations/wheelhop. I have never ran prs rotated mounts no, but I felt it was unnecessary to try after multiple sources whose opinions I hold over anyones, brought prs mounts to the table as still having wheelhop, while ttr's did not.
I'm just tired of people riding the blind sheep bandwagon and not forming their own opinions, but pushing a product because of a name anyways. It's whatever though.

 

well it all depends on what your doing with the car too....road coarse and on the street i have no wheel hop....but i guarentee if i took my 442whp(ass hurt mustang dyno) car to a drag strip i would get some. i dont think the mounts were designed for a drag strip seeing as i know them mostly for road coarse use.

the sway bar thing was me speaking aloud because i hate people saying im a nut swinger without knowing me or my car. ive done plenty of research and development on my lnf...springs, coilovers, struts, turbos, sway bars. ive found numerous things that just do not work well for the lnf car. i know on lsj's and redlines there are things that just dont like the lnf car. so i have every bit of reason behind the products i choose....im not calling you a ttr nuthugger because you like their mounts now am i?

 

I hear you I wasn't directly calling you a nutswinger if it came off that way I don't see you going around touting the name on your ass tattoo . Others, I'm not so sure about.

 

i use to have the powell raceshop supporters logo under my olllllld name..... good reason behind it too. none the less my old name was banned for making constructive critiscm twords this site and apparently they didnt like what i or a bunch of others had to say so none the less i deleted my turbo build along with a ton of other information i had courtsey of a mod on here and i keep all of that elseware.