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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Unused input found on LNF ECM

It turns out there's a pin that is not used in the Cobalt SSTC ECM but there is software support in the ECM for it.

We've used unused pins in the past to implement dynamically switchable tune features - like on a NOS build we used it for an arming switch and used an unused output to kick on the NOS solenoid under proper conditions. At the same time we swapped in an alternate fuel and timing table so the vehicle would perform optimally on the bottle vs. off the bottle.

We don't have any usable outputs (yet) but this input could be used for a variety of things. For example, people who are spraying water/methanol injection systems could apply a signal to this input and we could swap in an alternate timing table.

So, this thread is to hear all those great ideas out there! What would people like to use this for?
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Could this pin be used to command a totally different tune? I.E. using the AEM Truboost gauge and using the 2 settings it offers. Like, run stock psi/tune to putz around town and then run a high psi/tune for track days?
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
Could this pin be used to command a totally different tune? I.E. using the AEM Truboost gauge and using the 2 settings it offers. Like, run stock psi/tune to putz around town and then run a high psi/tune for track days?
Yes, although we already offer that through the traction control selection or cruise control selection. But, sure, we could add that input as a trigger method very, very easily.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Hmm...you are making me want to spend money on a car I don't even own yet, so quit it lol
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
Hmm...you are making me want to spend money on a car I don't even own yet, so quit it lol
LOL - sorry about that
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Well, I'm assuming that if you had a WOT switch on your car to trip your nitrous anyway, you could keep that to trigger your nitrous solenoid, and also have it go to this unused pin on the ecm, where it would switch to the nitrous fueling and spark tables? or are there limitations to the speed it can be switched between the tables?
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 383_Stroker
Well, I'm assuming that if you had a WOT switch on your car to trip your nitrous anyway, you could keep that to trigger your nitrous solenoid, and also have it go to this unused pin on the ecm, where it would switch to the nitrous fueling and spark tables? or are there limitations to the speed it can be switched between the tables?
It happens within a few hundred milliseconds of changing the input state, so the performance would be high enough to swap in an alternate timing table, for example.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Hmm...you are making me want to spend money on a car I don't even own yet, so quit it lol
hhaha that was my story for a while.
what about cry02?
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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There are so many possibilities with this...hows come you're the one that keeps finding all the fun stuff for the LNF computers? First it was unlocking the fuel tables and now it's this unused pin....what's next? lol
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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There are so many possibilities with this...hows come you're the one that keeps finding all the fun stuff for the LNF computers? First it was unlocking the fuel tables and now it's this unused pin....what's next? lol
How about driver-adjustable launch control RPM setting? ;-) Maybe you could use the cruise control buttons to set your launch RPM at engine startup.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
How about driver-adjustable launch control RPM setting? ;-) Maybe you could use the cruise control buttons to set your launch RPM at engine startup.
ooooo.....e-mail me tune



wait....wait....still don't have the TC yet. I need a bib, you're causing my salivary glands to go into overdrive
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
How about driver-adjustable launch control RPM setting? ;-) Maybe you could use the cruise control buttons to set your launch RPM at engine startup.
YESYESYES!
i'm willing to try it out on my car lol.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
How about driver-adjustable launch control RPM setting? ;-) Maybe you could use the cruise control buttons to set your launch RPM at engine startup.
I can honeslty say that would be incredible.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Yes, although we already offer that through the traction control selection or cruise control selection. But, sure, we could add that input as a trigger method very, very easily.
How about an inbetween tune Vince? Inbetween stock and full 22-23psi...say 19psi for those days when the finecky clutch is having a hard time holding on...
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
How about driver-adjustable launch control RPM setting? ;-) Maybe you could use the cruise control buttons to set your launch RPM at engine startup.
Sign me up! lol
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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I vote you get launch contol to build boost!!!!!

Then you can make this new found magical area of the ecu an adjustable L/C area where you can adjust the rpm you launch off of depending on how much you smoke you wanna see!!!
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy
How about an inbetween tune Vince? Inbetween stock and full 22-23psi...say 19psi for those days when the finecky clutch is having a hard time holding on...

yea i asked about three tunes available before.
i thought it was like this.
esc on no cruise = stock tune
esc on and cruise on = more boost
esc off = insane boost

something like that would be awesome
thats what i'd prefer
but i also like the idea of choosing rpm
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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yea i asked about three tunes available before.
i thought it was like this.
esc on no cruise = stock tune
esc on and cruise on = more boost
esc off = insane boost

something like that would be awesome
thats what i'd prefer
but i also like the idea of choosing rpm
I'm confused....does that mean you wouldn't have cruise control anymore? Or does it still work and just the fact that it's turned on change the settings? Cuz I'm a lazy bum and i like me cruise control lol
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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I'm confused....does that mean you wouldn't have cruise control anymore? Or does it still work and just the fact that it's turned on change the settings? Cuz I'm a lazy bum and i like me cruise control lol

lol it still works.
just press resume or set

mines set to be active on cruise off = 24 psi cruise on = 18
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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oooo....that's awesomeness. I want this...
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
oooo....that's awesomeness. I want this...
lol well idk if it can even exist.
but im my dreams it does. LOL.


if vince can't do it no one can.
gooooo vince.
hahahha.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by interviewatruins
lol it still works.
just press resume or set

mines set to be active on cruise off = 24 psi cruise on = 18
I was referring to this^^

the other thing you mentioned would be cool, but I really don't have a need for 3 settings, just 2. I want to be able to run "stock" boost all the time and then crank it up when I wanna have fun. I'd want the stock boost pressure, but a better tune over stock.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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I was referring to this^^

the other thing you mentioned would be cool, but I really don't have a need for 3 settings, just 2. I want to be able to run "stock" boost all the time and then crank it up when I wanna have fun. I'd want the stock boost pressure, but a better tune over stock.
well stock boost pressure isn't always the same lol
the ecm adjusts depending on temp and elevation
to limit you at 260 hp regardless if that means adding more boost or taking away.
so i'm not sure how vince would tune that.
here in austin, when i was stock last week i pulled 15 psi.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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well that's ghey...I just want a nice flat like 15 psi all the time. I don't care if it stays at 260 hp or not lol
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