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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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well that's ghey...I just want a nice flat like 15 psi all the time. I don't care if it stays at 260 hp or not lol
This is doable, tuning-wise, too.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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How about driver-adjustable launch control RPM setting? ;-) Maybe you could use the cruise control buttons to set your launch RPM at engine startup.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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With a stock turbo in place, I would hook up a dry nitrous kit and have the ECM add fuel pressure when the nitrous is on.

With a large turbo in place, I would have this input switch the ECM to anti-lag timing tables as long as a button is pressed.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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Damn Vince, I think you're trying to break some sort of record! Good work once again. In for the ideas people come up with...
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
It turns out there's a pin that is not used in the Cobalt SSTC ECM but there is software support in the ECM for it.

We've used unused pins in the past to implement dynamically switchable tune features - like on a NOS build we used it for an arming switch and used an unused output to kick on the NOS solenoid under proper conditions. At the same time we swapped in an alternate fuel and timing table so the vehicle would perform optimally on the bottle vs. off the bottle.

We don't have any usable outputs (yet) but this input could be used for a variety of things. For example, people who are spraying water/methanol injection systems could apply a signal to this input and we could swap in an alternate timing table.

So, this thread is to hear all those great ideas out there! What would people like to use this for?
i dont understand this. can someone explain this a little easier. and im interested in the meth. what is he talking about when he says could apply a signal to the input?????
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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i dont understand this. can someone explain this a little easier. and im interested in the meth. what is he talking about when he says could apply a signal to the input?????
Drugs are bad mkay!

But anyways....this soundsd pretty damn cool. I like the idea of the adjustable launch control, but Im sure theres a lot of other great ideas out there as well.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pookie025
i dont understand this. can someone explain this a little easier. and im interested in the meth. what is he talking about when he says could apply a signal to the input?????
It means that whatever switch activates the meth could also trigger the ECM to switch to different fueling/timing maps.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Vince I have been after you in the other threads about this! Thank you!!!! Once you get them unlocked, and I scrounge up the the money I will be all over your tune!
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Sub'd for future developments.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Mike~
Could this pin be used to command a totally different tune? I.E. using the AEM Truboost gauge and using the 2 settings it offers. Like, run stock psi/tune to putz around town and then run a high psi/tune for track days?
trifecta tune already does that, why do u need a ecu output?
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Vince how far in development is the user selectable launch control?
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Turbo's won't make boost unless the engine is under a good load. Which is why when you rev your engine up in neutral the gauge only peaks at about 0 instead of 10lbs of vacuum. The closer to 0 you ca get it, the better, Which is part of what the LC is supposed to do.

Now, if you can manage to hold the gas, the brake and slip the clutch at the same time all while staging up, you may get it to build boost that way. Need a crazy good driver mod for that one.

Vince, how much would it run us for the launch control settings? That way, some of us 'poorer' folk can start saving up our pennies.

I really can't wait till you make this feature possible. Also, how do you ever expect to get your tuner back form if you keep comming up with updates and I keep tearing tendons in my wrist???

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Exhaust Cutout when you press the mute button ..... oh the irony lol. Or if you hit the mute before you shut the car off it acts like a turbo timer ? I always wait 30 seconds or so before i shut my car off.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 01:18 AM
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Damnit vince... I just threw my HPT computer out the window.

Nah, jk. I wish you could come up with a User Interface. there are so many things I would love to do, and I would be all over this. Plan is to be going with a GT28 turbo this winter, and I have so much I want to change (dashpot, true launch control that builds boost, fuel pressure mod... etc...).
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Exhaust Cutout when you press the mute button ..... oh the irony lol. Or if you hit the mute before you shut the car off it acts like a turbo timer ? I always wait 30 seconds or so before i shut my car off.
If we find an unused output, we could implement an exhaust bypass feature like the Corvettes have! ;-)
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Adjustable launch control would be sickkk but how will we know what it is set at?

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Adjustable launch control would be sickkk but how will we know what it is set at?

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The way it would work is like this:

1. Start the car
2. While stationary, hold the engine RPM at what you want the launch RPM to be
3. Press the cruise control SET button, release the accelerator
4. This is now the programmed launch control setting
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by raynrishad
Turbo's won't make boost unless the engine is under a good load. Which is why when you rev your engine up in neutral the gauge only peaks at about 0 instead of 10lbs of vacuum. The closer to 0 you ca get it, the better, Which is part of what the LC is supposed to do. ?
With a little bit of tuning the maps, you could easily build 10+ psi sitting on the line, but its very very hard on the turbo and exhaust manifold. Short of this method, it's quite complicated to build boost without engine load, but is possible through one of two other setups.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Nice.... this is going to be awesome if you do decide to do this. I'm in whenever you start selling this.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Damnit vince... I just threw my HPT computer out the window.

Nah, jk. I wish you could come up with a User Interface. there are so many things I would love to do, and I would be all over this. Plan is to be going with a GT28 turbo this winter, and I have so much I want to change (dashpot, true launch control that builds boost, fuel pressure mod... etc...).
Totally agree, doesn't look like hptuners cares about the lnf at all unlike Vince.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Adjustable launch control would be sickkk but how will we know what it is set at?

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The way it would work is like this:

1. Start the car
2. While stationary, hold the engine RPM at what you want the launch RPM to be
3. Press the cruise control SET button, release the accelerator
4. This is now the programmed launch control setting
I noticed that the launch control allows 30% wheel spin, meaning that a limited TCS is still activated. Is there a way that you can cancel that out so one would have all the HP all the time?
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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all the hp all the time may not be the best for getting a tc out of the hole
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Lots of outputs for those of us not in emissions states...

Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
If we find an unused output, we could implement an exhaust bypass feature like the Corvettes have! ;-)
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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all the hp all the time may not be the best for getting a tc out of the hole
X2. Just like removing Torque management from 1st gear. Nothing but wheelspin at anything above 50% throttle. Power is great but putting it down is the problem. 50% torque for me in 1st.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by raynrishad
Turbo's won't make boost unless the engine is under a good load. Which is why when you rev your engine up in neutral the gauge only peaks at about 0 instead of 10lbs of vacuum. The closer to 0 you ca get it, the better, Which is part of what the LC is supposed to do.

Now, if you can manage to hold the gas, the brake and slip the clutch at the same time all while staging up, you may get it to build boost that way. Need a crazy good driver mod for that one.

Vince, how much would it run us for the launch control settings? That way, some of us 'poorer' folk can start saving up our pennies.

I really can't wait till you make this feature possible. Also, how do you ever expect to get your tuner back form if you keep comming up with updates and I keep tearing tendons in my wrist???
sure u can make boost in neutral, its called antilag. uses the same method gm uses to no lift shift. look em up on youtube and observe
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