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Old 09-28-2009, 11:32 AM
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Update to engine noise.

For those who was following the engine noise I was having. We thought it was a broken lifter, but after we took it apart and finally got a look, it ended up being a broken roller follower. Good thing it didnt come completly apart and take out my cam. Here is a couple pics.



Old 09-28-2009, 11:37 AM
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hmmmm how many miles are on your car?
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I have ticking too but I'm assuming that it is the direct injection. I heard it's normal for our cars to almost sound like it's a diesel.
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i think i have the same problem. how hard was that to get out?

because i have this clatter that gets faster when i increase the rpms and i can hear it inside while im driving

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Old 09-28-2009, 01:13 PM
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looks like it wouldn't have taken much more to come apart... lucky lol.
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What was your red line?
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
For those who was following the engine noise I was having. We thought it was a broken lifter, but after we took it apart and finally got a look, it ended up being a broken roller follower. Good thing it didnt come completly apart and take out my cam. Here is a couple pics.



like moepwer said. did your noise increase also when the rpms went up. i have noticed this ever since i bought my car. i know that the direct injection plays a big part.
Old 09-28-2009, 02:17 PM
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You're lucky when they opened mine up my rocker arms weren't where they were supposed to be. lol
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i had a second tick (other than the direct injection, it was very distinct) and it was my floaters.
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ANY CELs?
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Originally Posted by revhigh18
hmmmm how many miles are on your car?
When the noise started it was just over 12000 miles.

Originally Posted by MoePwR
i think i have the same problem. how hard was that to get out?

because i have this clatter that gets faster when i increase the rpms and i can hear it inside while im driving
Definitly got faster with rpms, however did not get louder, and was barley noticable in the cab. Only took about 3 hours total, but to do it in that time you need special tools from a GM shop that holds the cams and holds the timing chain so it dont fall into the motor. I wish I would of took more pics, but we got going and I didnt even think about it.

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looks like it wouldn't have taken much more to come apart... lucky lol.
No it wouldnt, took the pin out and looked at the bearings and they were all worn down, so probably wouldnt be much longer before it came apart.

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What was your red line?
Redline was 7000, but I have dropped it down to 6700. Which sucks because now I have to hit fourth at the track lol.

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You're lucky when they opened mine up my rocker arms weren't where they were supposed to be. lol
Ummm, yea that aint good.

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Interesting. I've been hearing something like a second tick coming from behind where the manifold meets the engine, on the side opposite of the fuel regulator. I'm worried it might be something like this now. I'll have to keep an eye on it now.
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Originally Posted by RYRO14
ANY CELs?
No CEL's, that is do to having dual valves. If it was a single valve there would have been.

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Interesting. I've been hearing something like a second tick coming from behind where the manifold meets the engine, on the side opposite of the fuel regulator. I'm worried it might be something like this now. I'll have to keep an eye on it now.
Mine was on the exhaust cam side, the fathest one toward the drivers side. But I guess it can happen anywhere.

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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Mine was on the exhaust cam side, the fathest one toward the drivers side. But I guess it can happen anywhere.
Yeah, this one's at the front, passenger side. Well I guess I can be slightly comforted, but still wondering about it. I wonder too if it could be related to the cam driven fuel pump. I'm not sure if that would create a noise someplace other than the fuel regulator area.
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Originally Posted by Stamina
Yeah, this one's at the front, passenger side. Well I guess I can be slightly comforted, but still wondering about it. I wonder too if it could be related to the cam driven fuel pump. I'm not sure if that would create a noise someplace other than the fuel regulator area.
Yea I am still trying to figure out what caused my problem. My buddie thinks it was a defect and would have happened no matter what, which I agree. But my brother thinks that either the valve stuck at high rpms and smacked the roller, or that there is a weak spring on that valve.
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Yea I am still trying to figure out what caused my problem. My buddie thinks it was a defect and would have happened no matter what, which I agree. But my brother thinks that either the valve stuck at high rpms and smacked the roller, or that there is a weak spring on that valve.
Well, if we're going to be opening up the engine, might as well upgrade things while we're in there...

I wonder how much better valve springs are for the LNF... I hear that's a good thing to look into anyway if you're planning on spinning 7k+ RPM (which I personally am not, but it wouldn't hurt to have better springs).
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Originally Posted by Stamina
Well, if we're going to be opening up the engine, might as well upgrade things while we're in there...

I wonder how much better valve springs are for the LNF... I hear that's a good thing to look into anyway if you're planning on spinning 7k+ RPM (which I personally am not, but it wouldn't hurt to have better springs).
I think ferra has springs for the TC, I think there also like 600.00 for the set.
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
I think ferra has springs for the TC, I think there also like 600.00 for the set.
Ouch...
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Originally Posted by Stamina
Ouch...
Yep thats why I lowered the rev limiter.
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
Yep thats why I lowered the rev limiter.
how much did it cost do fix this. can we order those tools from the chevy dealer. i want to say that zzp has springs.
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Question

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how much did it cost do fix this. can we order those tools from the chevy dealer. i want to say that zzp has springs.
These? The question then is, will they work?

http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1009&catid=143
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Any spring for any Ecotec will work. Same with valves. So, you can get some good deals on some decent springs. I have been thinking about building my head this winter... But I wouldn't mind saving up and doing it all when we can get cams, then i can do port/polish/cams/springs at once.
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Originally Posted by mkriebs
Any spring for any Ecotec will work. Same with valves. So, you can get some good deals on some decent springs. I have been thinking about building my head this winter... But I wouldn't mind saving up and doing it all when we can get cams, then i can do port/polish/cams/springs at once.
I dont ever see anyone carrying any valves for our cars. is there a company that has some. i want to do this but i am not so familar with the LNFs. Bulit a LS2. how much harder would it be for our cars or would it be easier.

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These? The question then is, will they work?

http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1009&catid=143
as far as i know that they willl work. i believe that -Matt has them. i could be wrong.(zzp matt)

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Old 09-29-2009, 09:46 AM
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Not quite any valve for any Ecotec. If you use an exhaust valve specified for a naturally aspirated engine it may or may not be able to withstand the much higher combustion exhaust gas temps seen in a turbocharged application. That's why the stock LNF uses sodium-filled valve stems in order to help dissipate heat.


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