Upgrade from GM coming soon!
 

I haven't been around this site too much since I traded in my 2006 SS/NA for a 2008 HHR SS so you may know this already. Anyway yesterday one of the members of chevyhhr.net posted this info:

"This message was released today by GM.

Subject: SPO - Bulletin ACC08-030 - LNF Turbo Upgrade Kits for Solstice, Sky and HHR

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To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER, Pontiac (including MD) and Saturn

DESCRIPTION:

The new warranty labor operation code R9224 is to be used for warranty claims on all Turbo Upgrade Kit components for Solstice, Sky and HHR. This warranty code also includes HHR utilizing the Turbo Kit with an automatic transmission. This does not include SAAB products.

EFFECTIVE DATE:

Immediately

There was an email address attached and so I sent a message asking what this was. The reply stated this is an upgrade kit to take these vehicles to 290 hp and more information would be coming shortly. Nice."

"This is for a kit that we are getting ready to release for the Sky Redline, Solstice GXP, HHR SS, Cobalt SS, and Ion Redline. It will be a turbo upgrade kit for all of the 2.0l Turbo LNF engines. It will raise the HP on these cars from 260-290hp. Keep watching for the release.

I then asked was this stage 1 and would other stages be released?

The email answer back was:

There is only one stage planned at this point."

Nice find

is it a turbo up grade or a reflash i know more info will come but still that is the main question.

No offense to you though but unless you proof it, its not happening lol..

here is a link to the chevyhhr.net thread http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18315

The guy works at a chevy dealership, I believe him!

I will ask when we go to the plant tour and see what they say and post it up.

I can confirm this. I just looked it up.

its pretty much gonna happen already. its a reflash which ups the boost and replaces a couple sensors for the upped boost. the tune already got its C.A.R.B certification to be used in all 50 states so this should be coming out shortly

Any guesses on how much this is gonna cost?

probalyy around the same as stage 2.. 1100 - 1800 pending on how cool your dealer is or i could be totally off and they may want 2500 idk but if they want to sell there aftermarket i thiunk the first numbers are fair

Nice find, kinda skeptical but I will now visit my dealer and ask if they have heard of anything. Thanks

Omg I Want

If its over 900+ bucks imo its a huge rip off. How can a set of sensors and a flash cost that much. At least for the SS/SC you got injectors, pulley, belt, and a flash. I'm not bashing the kit, I'm bashing the price. I hope it is a real thing for the SS/TC owners.

Awesome news

Man I thought this was a "TURBO" upgrade. Shit I could just buy the senors and get the PPC from Hahn

It is a turbo upgrade in as far as it's increasing the amount of boost the stock turbocharger is producing, although it is worded poorly. Chrysler was no better in their Stage 1 and 2 kits for the Neon SRT-4 and also called them "turbo upgrade kits" even though they retained the stock MHI 16g turbo. As far as I know the BSR PPC flash doesn't use or require upgraded sensors which makes me curious how the actual output will compare to the GM kit or if GM has some other stuff in store down the road that may require new sensors (unlikely from what's been stated by a few people so far). I need to get my hands on a service manual or some other info as I'm curious what the limits of the stock MAF/MAP are as used on the LNF.

damn....that's a nice upgrade

And would the senors effect the BSR tune? or could this make it get a better tune out of it.

The ppc wont recognize the sensors or the operating system.

You wouldn't want to install the wrong sensors on the car. The engine calibration has to be programmed for the sensor characteristics otherwise it can't accurately calculate how much air is going into the engine and can't compute things like required fuel and timing to run. For example, if you installed upgraded sensors that can read higher air mass flow and pressure but left the factory calibration or used the BSR flash (which is designed for the factory sensors), the computer's programming would think you have less air mass coming into the engine than you really do and run it leaner. That could potentially damage or even kill an engine.

I wouldnt pay 1200 for it
 

No way man 1200 estimated cost .. I would rather get other aftermarket mods and keep a stock PCM handy ..


Just me ....

I am excited to see some news, however the stage 2 upgrade was a better increase over the 30 hp expected, 290 is awesome, but hey, wheres the 350? :cssNET:

If what I read is true the price sounds pretty reasonable for what it is, extra hp, you keep your factory warranty & is carb certified. Most any aftermarket setup you loose two of those three things. carb certification costs alot of $ & time on GM's part so for the most part they are probably trying to recoup some of those costs at a minimum.

Just my .02

Kinda confused as to why it says Ion Redline in there too.

yea, the Ion RL in there doesn't make much sense

Anybody have any official update on a potential release date or price?

Gmpp
 

I too was curious, so I contacted my dealership Parts Manager and asked him to call the performance division. They said there is a great deal in the works for this engine as they're still seriously looking at a camaro with the same engine for a fuel economy/performance option so they have been testing many options. They told him there were many options coming soon but there was some discussion on what warranties could be offered with certain parts/upgrades. GMPD said parts will be released between November and March and couldn't release any pricing or specific dates. I patiently wait...

Blah blah blah...some guy at a dealership...

They have tried the LNF in the new Camaro and it only bests the V8 by 1 mpg highway...the V6 gets better mileage and has more power...

No GM performance division is not "some guy at a dealership"...

Car mags and GMPD are still discussing the LNF in the camaro. I guarantee the V6 won't have more power than a nicely upgraded LNF.

Take the info or leave it...

Hmmm...GM seems to think there is not going to be an LNF option in the Camaro...

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=2&docid=47302

Just because they are discussing something doesn't mean it will happen...

People in the CTS community don't seem to have much of a problem getting some more power out of the DI 3.6 V6.

Yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about... ;)

We will see... I'll eat my crow if I need too. ;)

Am i missing something here? I mean wouldn't it make more sense to spend under a $1000 for the Hahn's racecraft PPC and get about the same horsepower maybe even a little more actually? I mean I know some of you will say the GM stage one won't void your warranty but I believe they said with the Hahn PPC you can switch back to stock and the dealership would never know incase you have to take it in? I'm lost

Nice. Good information to know since im trading in on a Sky Redline in spring. :twothumbs

my money is on a sema release one year anniversary form original release of the lnf cobalt....or from what im being told we will know as soon as gmpp catalogue is out for 09

Who gives a crap about the ion redline? They're not releasing anything for the redline it's a dead platform!:lol: Unless they're throwing in the lnf exhaust manifold and doing turbo conversions which isn't out of the realm of possibility because they should have a ton of those lnf block manifolds and internal wastegate saab turbos hanging around. They probably mean...sky redline.

I'd call bs, but I would be humbled if GM actually gave a crap about the redline.:lol:

god i wish something beside a down pipe and a tuner would come out for these cars

umm theres a cat back from Hahn and a intercooler and piping upgrade from synapse

GM can detect PCM reflashes with a Tech-II. END OF STORY. 8 times out of 10 they wont do it but they can. If you use HP Tuners or Hahn PPC they can tell. The only true way to be safe is to go with a GM Upgrade.