Upgrade from GM coming soon!
09-18-2008, 08:54 PM
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Upgrade from GM coming soon!
I haven't been around this site too much since I traded in my 2006 SS/NA for a 2008 HHR SS so you may know this already. Anyway yesterday one of the members of chevyhhr.net posted this info:
"This message was released today by GM.
Subject: SPO - Bulletin ACC08-030 - LNF Turbo Upgrade Kits for Solstice, Sky and HHR
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To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER, Pontiac (including MD) and Saturn
DESCRIPTION:
The new warranty labor operation code R9224 is to be used for warranty claims on all Turbo Upgrade Kit components for Solstice, Sky and HHR. This warranty code also includes HHR utilizing the Turbo Kit with an automatic transmission. This does not include SAAB products.
EFFECTIVE DATE:
Immediately
There was an email address attached and so I sent a message asking what this was. The reply stated this is an upgrade kit to take these vehicles to 290 hp and more information would be coming shortly. Nice."
"This is for a kit that we are getting ready to release for the Sky Redline, Solstice GXP, HHR SS, Cobalt SS, and Ion Redline. It will be a turbo upgrade kit for all of the 2.0l Turbo LNF engines. It will raise the HP on these cars from 260-290hp. Keep watching for the release.
I then asked was this stage 1 and would other stages be released?
The email answer back was:
There is only one stage planned at this point."
"This message was released today by GM.
Subject: SPO - Bulletin ACC08-030 - LNF Turbo Upgrade Kits for Solstice, Sky and HHR
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To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER, Pontiac (including MD) and Saturn
DESCRIPTION:
The new warranty labor operation code R9224 is to be used for warranty claims on all Turbo Upgrade Kit components for Solstice, Sky and HHR. This warranty code also includes HHR utilizing the Turbo Kit with an automatic transmission. This does not include SAAB products.
EFFECTIVE DATE:
Immediately
There was an email address attached and so I sent a message asking what this was. The reply stated this is an upgrade kit to take these vehicles to 290 hp and more information would be coming shortly. Nice."
"This is for a kit that we are getting ready to release for the Sky Redline, Solstice GXP, HHR SS, Cobalt SS, and Ion Redline. It will be a turbo upgrade kit for all of the 2.0l Turbo LNF engines. It will raise the HP on these cars from 260-290hp. Keep watching for the release.
I then asked was this stage 1 and would other stages be released?
The email answer back was:
There is only one stage planned at this point."
09-18-2008, 08:56 PM
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is it a turbo up grade or a reflash i know more info will come but still that is the main question.
No offense to you though but unless you proof it, its not happening lol..
No offense to you though but unless you proof it, its not happening lol..
09-18-2008, 08:58 PM
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here is a link to the chevyhhr.net thread http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18315
The guy works at a chevy dealership, I believe him!
The guy works at a chevy dealership, I believe him!
09-19-2008, 03:01 PM
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probalyy around the same as stage 2.. 1100 - 1800 pending on how cool your dealer is or i could be totally off and they may want 2500 idk but if they want to sell there aftermarket i thiunk the first numbers are fair
09-19-2008, 07:29 PM
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If its over 900+ bucks imo its a huge rip off. How can a set of sensors and a flash cost that much. At least for the SS/SC you got injectors, pulley, belt, and a flash. I'm not bashing the kit, I'm bashing the price. I hope it is a real thing for the SS/TC owners.
09-21-2008, 07:02 AM
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It is a turbo upgrade in as far as it's increasing the amount of boost the stock turbocharger is producing, although it is worded poorly. Chrysler was no better in their Stage 1 and 2 kits for the Neon SRT-4 and also called them "turbo upgrade kits" even though they retained the stock MHI 16g turbo. As far as I know the BSR PPC flash doesn't use or require upgraded sensors which makes me curious how the actual output will compare to the GM kit or if GM has some other stuff in store down the road that may require new sensors (unlikely from what's been stated by a few people so far). I need to get my hands on a service manual or some other info as I'm curious what the limits of the stock MAF/MAP are as used on the LNF.
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It is a turbo upgrade in as far as it's increasing the amount of boost the stock turbocharger is producing, although it is worded poorly. Chrysler was no better in their Stage 1 and 2 kits for the Neon SRT-4 and also called them "turbo upgrade kits" even though they retained the stock MHI 16g turbo. As far as I know the BSR PPC flash doesn't use or require upgraded sensors which makes me curious how the actual output will compare to the GM kit or if GM has some other stuff in store down the road that may require new sensors (unlikely from what's been stated by a few people so far). I need to get my hands on a service manual or some other info as I'm curious what the limits of the stock MAF/MAP are as used on the LNF.
09-21-2008, 09:59 AM
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09-21-2008, 10:00 AM
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You wouldn't want to install the wrong sensors on the car. The engine calibration has to be programmed for the sensor characteristics otherwise it can't accurately calculate how much air is going into the engine and can't compute things like required fuel and timing to run. For example, if you installed upgraded sensors that can read higher air mass flow and pressure but left the factory calibration or used the BSR flash (which is designed for the factory sensors), the computer's programming would think you have less air mass coming into the engine than you really do and run it leaner. That could potentially damage or even kill an engine.
09-21-2008, 10:09 PM
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"This is for a kit that we are getting ready to release for the Sky Redline, Solstice GXP, HHR SS, Cobalt SS, and Ion Redline. It will be a turbo upgrade kit for all of the 2.0l Turbo LNF engines. It will raise the HP on these cars from 260-290hp. Keep watching for the release.
