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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:42 AM
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And that straightener made by them was bought by Mazdaspeed in their Mazdaspeed intake for the the 3.

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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that would be nice if a diffuser was available for our aftermarket intakes.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Esss Nice!!!!!!!!

Did you guys discuss a SRI or CAI?
Neither, it is going to be a ram air intake which should produce big gains in top end acceleration. Even the NA Vettes gain almost half a second in the QM with vararam's ram air intakes.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Neither, it is going to be a ram air intake which should produce big gains in top end acceleration. Even the NA Vettes gain almost half a second in the QM with vararam's ram air intakes.
where will the air be forced in from?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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lol @ 300 bucks fpr an aluminum pipe!!!!
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Here's hoping they don't do like k&n
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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lol @ 300 bucks fpr an aluminum pipe!!!!
The $300 isn't just for an "aluminum pipe". It also helps recover R&D costs and is entirely worth the cost if the performs well without skewing fuel trims and throwing CEL's. And it's not like they are just taking a piece of straight pipe and bending it. It is alot more complicated than that. If all an intake required was a piece of aluminum it would be alot more feasable to include one from the factory.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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plz use aluminum piping and try to use as little silicone for an elbow as u can
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
where will the air be forced in from?
Usually from the grill area or possibly a scoop (such as in the C6).

On an Avalanche


On a Corvette
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Patrick @ Vararam has been in the industry for 15+ years and that was apparent when I first contacted him about persuing this. From conversations with him he claims the initial prototypes will be up for testing within the month. I hooked him up with Terminator and they are the ones who will be putting it through its paces so either him or I will be keeping everybody updated. As for production dates and price, that is still TBD.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stamina
Usually from the grill area or possibly a scoop (such as in the C6).

On an Avalanche

Are you risking water ingestion with a set up like that?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Neither, it is going to be a ram air intake which should produce big gains in top end acceleration. Even the NA Vettes gain almost half a second in the QM with vararam's ram air intakes.
I am curious about Ram Air...you can not force more air than the turbo is sucking...what would the point really be? I guess somewhat colder aire. Of course once the turbo is sucking your MAF would be way high...in the 40's which is awersome since for the most part more air means more power. Just a thought.

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Are you risking water ingestion with a set up like that?
Not likely...many cars run a setup like this...I believe the Ralliart has a similar setup...

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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who's bj do I have to pay for to get an intake for my hhr lol. I only know of the k&n bs, and a secret services cai intake. both of which are not worth any money imo lol.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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if they do a sri w/ cold air box or a ram air.. its so worth $300+. You guys dont realize it yet but a good, GOOD, intake is very much worth that.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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how much HP/TQ do you think this will give r cars if it works out
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by beast10007
how much HP/TQ do you think this will give r cars if it works out
The way Vararam build their intakes, they make gains in the real world. They claim big on their websites cause the gains are made at speed. Where they might make the same if not maybe a little less on a dyno compared to others, their track times show huge gains compared to typical conical filter style tubed intakes. Also they do not use conical filters in almost all of their intakes due to the turbulence cause by that style. Thats why almost every vehicle from the factory comes with a panel filter. It essentially is an air straightner.

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I am curious about Ram Air...you can not force more air than the turbo is sucking...what would the point really be? I guess somewhat colder aire. Of course once the turbo is sucking your MAF would be way high...in the 40's which is awersome since for the most part more air means more power. Just a thought.
Its the same idea as running with or without a filter or putting a venturi on the turbo itself. The turbo does not have to work as hard to draw air in. Also like you said, the air charge will be cooler and essentially denser air. Most likely when tuning for this type of intake, street tuning will be more essential than dyno since peak power is made at top speed. That or you will have to introduce an artifical 100+ mph to the inlet of the intake to mimic the ramair effect. Somebody get this guy a leaf blower, STAT!

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who's bj do I have to pay for to get an intake for my hhr lol. I only know of the k&n bs, and a secret services cai intake. both of which are not worth any money imo lol.
You never know, once they perfect the Cobalts LNF setup, it would be a much quicker process to produce an intake for the HHR-SS. Im going to be contacting him next week to follow up on progress and will let him chew on this as well. You never know, the more LNF vehicles he can use might aid in the developement process. If you are a member of chevyhhr.net send out a feeler to all members to see if there is interest in it as well as source some prospects in the Houston area who would be willing to volunteer their vehicles and time for future prototyping.

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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:01 AM
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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Have any of you actually looked at the cold side of the turbo? It is quite small and the stock tube fits it perfectly and then it opens up quite a bit; which is why a simple drop in filter makes such a favorable difference. Airbox mod and KN should be sufficient as proven countless of times in this forum.

The issue in these cars is not the tubing, it is the oem filter. Even the charge pipes, when you "upgrade" to a 3 inch piping all around you lose air velocity, which is what the stock tubing does. Remember we have a small turbo not a monster t80 or w/e that needs room to flow. Stock flow numbers show the piping is adequate and since we do not flow a whole lot of volume, you need velocity to compensate.

Any tuners care to chime in on this?
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 04:12 AM
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Neither, it is going to be a ram air intake which should produce big gains in top end acceleration. Even the NA Vettes gain almost half a second in the QM with vararam's ram air intakes.
This news makes me happy, but I hope it won't feed from the foglamp.

My brake ducts will be in the way
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
This news makes me happy, but I hope it won't feed from the foglamp.

My brake ducts will be in the way
Probably somewhere else but I will call Patrick later and ask him where he thinks it should go. Intake will be baffled so no water can get to the filter or MAF.

Originally Posted by steven6870
I am curious about Ram Air...you can not force more air than the turbo is sucking...what would the point really be? I guess somewhat colder aire. Of course once the turbo is sucking your MAF would be way high...in the 40's which is awersome since for the most part more air means more power. Just a thought.



Not likely...many cars run a setup like this...I believe the Ralliart has a similar setup...
Essentially what you are doing is increasing the inlet pressure which will make the turbo more efficient especially as vehicle speeds increase. Think of it as having a more dense airmass for the compressor to compress. More power.

Originally Posted by tom.g
Are you risking water ingestion with a set up like that?
All the Corvette intakes are baffled to keep water out. Not sure about that particular intake.

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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Term, you are the man when it comes to this.

I have been harping on Goodridge to make us a stainless line kit.

I sent them OEM rear lines a couple weeks ago.
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