Vararam Industries LNF Intake Update....
The $300 isn't just for an "aluminum pipe". It also helps recover R&D costs and is entirely worth the cost if the performs well without skewing fuel trims and throwing CEL's. And it's not like they are just taking a piece of straight pipe and bending it. It is alot more complicated than that. If all an intake required was a piece of aluminum it would be alot more feasable to include one from the factory.
Patrick @ Vararam has been in the industry for 15+ years and that was apparent when I first contacted him about persuing this. From conversations with him he claims the initial prototypes will be up for testing within the month. I hooked him up with Terminator and they are the ones who will be putting it through its paces so either him or I will be keeping everybody updated. As for production dates and price, that is still TBD.
Not likely...many cars run a setup like this...I believe the Ralliart has a similar setup...
Last edited by steven6870; Apr 15, 2010 at 08:27 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
The way Vararam build their intakes, they make gains in the real world. They claim big on their websites cause the gains are made at speed. Where they might make the same if not maybe a little less on a dyno compared to others, their track times show huge gains compared to typical conical filter style tubed intakes. Also they do not use conical filters in almost all of their intakes due to the turbulence cause by that style. Thats why almost every vehicle from the factory comes with a panel filter. It essentially is an air straightner.
Its the same idea as running with or without a filter or putting a venturi on the turbo itself. The turbo does not have to work as hard to draw air in. Also like you said, the air charge will be cooler and essentially denser air. Most likely when tuning for this type of intake, street tuning will be more essential than dyno since peak power is made at top speed. That or you will have to introduce an artifical 100+ mph to the inlet of the intake to mimic the ramair effect. Somebody get this guy a leaf blower, STAT!
You never know, once they perfect the Cobalts LNF setup, it would be a much quicker process to produce an intake for the HHR-SS. Im going to be contacting him next week to follow up on progress and will let him chew on this as well. You never know, the more LNF vehicles he can use might aid in the developement process. If you are a member of chevyhhr.net send out a feeler to all members to see if there is interest in it as well as source some prospects in the Houston area who would be willing to volunteer their vehicles and time for future prototyping.
I am curious about Ram Air...you can not force more air than the turbo is sucking...what would the point really be? I guess somewhat colder aire. Of course once the turbo is sucking your MAF would be way high...in the 40's which is awersome since for the most part more air means more power. Just a thought.
You never know, once they perfect the Cobalts LNF setup, it would be a much quicker process to produce an intake for the HHR-SS. Im going to be contacting him next week to follow up on progress and will let him chew on this as well. You never know, the more LNF vehicles he can use might aid in the developement process. If you are a member of chevyhhr.net send out a feeler to all members to see if there is interest in it as well as source some prospects in the Houston area who would be willing to volunteer their vehicles and time for future prototyping.
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Have any of you actually looked at the cold side of the turbo? It is quite small and the stock tube fits it perfectly and then it opens up quite a bit; which is why a simple drop in filter makes such a favorable difference. Airbox mod and KN should be sufficient as proven countless of times in this forum.
The issue in these cars is not the tubing, it is the oem filter. Even the charge pipes, when you "upgrade" to a 3 inch piping all around you lose air velocity, which is what the stock tubing does. Remember we have a small turbo not a monster t80 or w/e that needs room to flow. Stock flow numbers show the piping is adequate and since we do not flow a whole lot of volume, you need velocity to compensate.
Any tuners care to chime in on this?
The issue in these cars is not the tubing, it is the oem filter. Even the charge pipes, when you "upgrade" to a 3 inch piping all around you lose air velocity, which is what the stock tubing does. Remember we have a small turbo not a monster t80 or w/e that needs room to flow. Stock flow numbers show the piping is adequate and since we do not flow a whole lot of volume, you need velocity to compensate.
Any tuners care to chime in on this?
My brake ducts will be in the way
I am curious about Ram Air...you can not force more air than the turbo is sucking...what would the point really be? I guess somewhat colder aire. Of course once the turbo is sucking your MAF would be way high...in the 40's which is awersome since for the most part more air means more power. Just a thought.
Not likely...many cars run a setup like this...I believe the Ralliart has a similar setup...
Not likely...many cars run a setup like this...I believe the Ralliart has a similar setup...
All the Corvette intakes are baffled to keep water out. Not sure about that particular intake.
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