voiding waranty
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I wouldn't see how a DP/exhaust could void it. Now, a dealership could probably get away with voiding it for the aftermarket intercooler, even though it wouldn't hurt to throw one on unless it's a piece of junk.
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Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
For our purposes the law basically states that you have a right to use after market, non-OEM parts on your vehicle and still retain the factory warranty. However, if there is a failure and the manufacturer can show that the failure was caused by the aftermarket part, they can deny coverage.
The important thing is that your dealer cannot VOID your entire warranty just because the part is on the vehicle. There have been cases where a dealer would tell a customer that their new vehicle had no warranty because it had an after market exhaust or other part. Granted, the exhaust or other part is not covered, however the rest of the vehicle is still under the normal warranty.
Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that after market equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such claim-or offer an explanation- it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202.326.3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...#Magnuson-Moss
http://www.pt-tuning.com/policies/Magn-Moss-Act.html
For our purposes the law basically states that you have a right to use after market, non-OEM parts on your vehicle and still retain the factory warranty. However, if there is a failure and the manufacturer can show that the failure was caused by the aftermarket part, they can deny coverage.
The important thing is that your dealer cannot VOID your entire warranty just because the part is on the vehicle. There have been cases where a dealer would tell a customer that their new vehicle had no warranty because it had an after market exhaust or other part. Granted, the exhaust or other part is not covered, however the rest of the vehicle is still under the normal warranty.
Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that after market equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such claim-or offer an explanation- it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202.326.3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...#Magnuson-Moss
http://www.pt-tuning.com/policies/Magn-Moss-Act.html
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Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
For our purposes the law basically states that you have a right to use after market, non-OEM parts on your vehicle and still retain the factory warranty. However, if there is a failure and the manufacturer can show that the failure was caused by the aftermarket part, they can deny coverage.
The important thing is that your dealer cannot VOID your entire warranty just because the part is on the vehicle. There have been cases where a dealer would tell a customer that their new vehicle had no warranty because it had an after market exhaust or other part. Granted, the exhaust or other part is not covered, however the rest of the vehicle is still under the normal warranty.
Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that after market equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such claim-or offer an explanation- it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202.326.3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...#Magnuson-Moss
http://www.pt-tuning.com/policies/Magn-Moss-Act.html
For our purposes the law basically states that you have a right to use after market, non-OEM parts on your vehicle and still retain the factory warranty. However, if there is a failure and the manufacturer can show that the failure was caused by the aftermarket part, they can deny coverage.
The important thing is that your dealer cannot VOID your entire warranty just because the part is on the vehicle. There have been cases where a dealer would tell a customer that their new vehicle had no warranty because it had an after market exhaust or other part. Granted, the exhaust or other part is not covered, however the rest of the vehicle is still under the normal warranty.
Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that after market equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such claim-or offer an explanation- it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202.326.3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...#Magnuson-Moss
http://www.pt-tuning.com/policies/Magn-Moss-Act.html
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This site might have the answer. I dont want to create an account to find out though. http://www.justanswer.com/questions/...-moss-act-1975
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This site might have the answer. I dont want to create an account to find out though. http://www.justanswer.com/questions/...-moss-act-1975
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Here is my way of thinking.....
All they gotta do is claim abuse and your warranty is gone.
Putting aftermarket parts on the SS/TC IS NOT going to GAIN ANYTHING unless you tune for it. And it has already been stated, that the bosch ecu in the ss/tc is a tattle tale ecu and that there is no way around GM or a dealership to not know that you played with the ECU. GM said they were voiding any cars with modified ecu's.
So....if you put the parts on, you are still going to make the rated 260/260 unless you tune, and if you tune, then you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Yet another reason to buy an LSJ. LOL. Bring on the hate.
All they gotta do is claim abuse and your warranty is gone.
Putting aftermarket parts on the SS/TC IS NOT going to GAIN ANYTHING unless you tune for it. And it has already been stated, that the bosch ecu in the ss/tc is a tattle tale ecu and that there is no way around GM or a dealership to not know that you played with the ECU. GM said they were voiding any cars with modified ecu's.
So....if you put the parts on, you are still going to make the rated 260/260 unless you tune, and if you tune, then you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Yet another reason to buy an LSJ. LOL. Bring on the hate.
Last edited by ralliartist; Nov 23, 2008 at 05:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Here is my way of thinking.....
All they gotta do is claim abuse and your warranty is gone.
Putting aftermarket parts on the SS/TC IS NOT going to GAIN ANYTHING unless you tune for it. And it has already been stated, that the bosch ecu in the ss/tc is a tattle tale ecu and that there is no way around GM or a dealership to not know that you played with the ECU. GM said they were voiding any cars with modified ecu's.
So....if you put the parts on, you are still going to make the rated 260/260 unless you tune, and if you tune, then you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Yet another reason to buy an LSJ. LOL. Bring on the hate.
All they gotta do is claim abuse and your warranty is gone.
Putting aftermarket parts on the SS/TC IS NOT going to GAIN ANYTHING unless you tune for it. And it has already been stated, that the bosch ecu in the ss/tc is a tattle tale ecu and that there is no way around GM or a dealership to not know that you played with the ECU. GM said they were voiding any cars with modified ecu's.
So....if you put the parts on, you are still going to make the rated 260/260 unless you tune, and if you tune, then you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Yet another reason to buy an LSJ. LOL. Bring on the hate.
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Here is my way of thinking.....
All they gotta do is claim abuse and your warranty is gone.
Putting aftermarket parts on the SS/TC IS NOT going to GAIN ANYTHING unless you tune for it. And it has already been stated, that the bosch ecu in the ss/tc is a tattle tale ecu and that there is no way around GM or a dealership to not know that you played with the ECU. GM said they were voiding any cars with modified ecu's.
So....if you put the parts on, you are still going to make the rated 260/260 unless you tune, and if you tune, then you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Yet another reason to buy an LSJ. LOL. Bring on the hate.
All they gotta do is claim abuse and your warranty is gone.
Putting aftermarket parts on the SS/TC IS NOT going to GAIN ANYTHING unless you tune for it. And it has already been stated, that the bosch ecu in the ss/tc is a tattle tale ecu and that there is no way around GM or a dealership to not know that you played with the ECU. GM said they were voiding any cars with modified ecu's.
So....if you put the parts on, you are still going to make the rated 260/260 unless you tune, and if you tune, then you can kiss your warranty goodbye.
Yet another reason to buy an LSJ. LOL. Bring on the hate.
it sux..same with no lemon law other wise i woulda filed for that long time ago lol
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And I love it when the clueless try attacking me.
no they don't. slightly lower tread on the front compared to the rear tires is plenty reason to call abuse. Or even just hearing that you were at a track racing it they can call abuse.
Last edited by ralliartist; Nov 23, 2008 at 06:08 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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i wasn't saying it had ANYTHING to do with me, i was stating your modded ss/sc (MODDED key word when talking about voided warrenty huh?) VS the stock ss/tc which the best time has gotten a 13.6...........don't get butt hurt and ffs, give up on attacking my signature ppl, it's ummm as old as time itself now ok? thx, drive thru pls
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no, it's not. lol. and I wouldn't run a 13.2 anymore. That was on a conservative tune and oversized slicks. I'm pretty sure it's not a fun race for a ss/tc. Local ss/tc's would know.
and like I said, in your case, 14.4 isn't anywhere near 13.2
and like I said, in your case, 14.4 isn't anywhere near 13.2
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u have 13.2 posted on your sig and i have 14.4 on my sig, u attacked mine, i attack yours, end of arguement, nobody wins, back to topic cause i'm sick of fighting with random ppl on css.net who think they are better than everyone else.
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to me if I see an upgraded intercooler and turbo back exhaust, your not doing it for "sound", your doing it for added performance which would lead me to believe your romping on the car. reason enough for them to void a warrenty.