I'm 31 myself, and it astonishes me the condition of some cars brought to me for tunes,
holes in intakes, vacuum leaks, non functioning widebands, bald tires, bad brakes, and the list goes on. I'm not wasting my time anymore, some one brings me a car not up to my standards, I just turn them away now.

 

So he didnt even really know you were coming (forgot or there was a miss communication or something) and still worked on your car with you for three hours? Sounds like the BYT I know.

 

To clear things up:

This happened to be one time that it just slipped my mind, I was honestly very busy over the summer and **** happens sometimes. I didn't forget you were coming, I just forgot that there was parts to install and was shocked I told you to come on a weeknight for that stuff. I still made no complaints and worked on your car thru the dark to get it finished. I even helped you fix various things that were wrong..

The motor:
Your car showed up SOAKED in oil under the hood, I made a comment about it and stated how that made me nervous to even touch it, I don't want blame pointed at me...You said, and Im quoting "That's from the BOV or something, IDK, and I wouldn't blame you, I beat the living **** out of my car". You also went into detail about your Brother(I think) or Uncle owning a race car shop and you were planning on a motor build regardless.

I then explained how someone else came with motor damage and I didn't want to touch their car, yet they talked me into to TRY and break the car (since the dealer said there was nothing wrong) and that one came back to bite me in the ass as well. I guess I will learn after this one.... **** isn't right when it shows up, Im not touching it anymore.

The drive:
Lasted maybe 5 mins which there was maybe 2 short pulls, not even full WOT pulls mind you. We then head back to my place to make adjustments and you noticed the car was smoking. Being totally honest : It just isn't possible that doing 2 pulls with my base tune would do that to ANY car. The timing was super conservative and the boost spiked 25psi but that was all.


You recently contacted me since finishing the build to get it retuned, I guess it wasn't THAT bad? lol..

 

I never received a email, text or phone call saying you had any issue. Should you had, I would have no problem meeting up and logging the car plus readjusting if need be. This is exactly why I give everyone my card with my PERSONAL phone number on it and tell you to call me should ANYthing come up. I have never told anyone to go pound salt after paying me for a service, Im sure plenty of people can back me up there.

Your car, if Im remembering correctly, had KR just above 6300 and I kept reducing the timing slightly with no effect on it. It wasn't actually pulling timing and the car didn't hiccup or anything like that.

If you are worried about anything or feel anything is off, feel free to call me and I will gladly look at the car.

 

blew his spot right the f*ck up

 

This is what Im saying in the last 2 posts. I try to do what people want, even against my better judgement at times to try and make them happy with their purchase. I will learn now

 

Im not trying to be a dick to anyone, just stating my side and clearing things up. So please don't take offense Ferrets or 30odd6, Im really just trying to get my side of the story across

 

Nick Whens the best time to get a tune from you? lol. Im sure getting tuned in the winter is a no no. 70 degree weather the perfect tuning weather?

 

understandable, i would want to get my side of the story out too!

 

I don't see why you couldn't do this, however HPTuners encrypts the file once it d/l it from the car. You would have to decrypt the file, then make the changes to the values that control the fuel pressure, re-encrypt the file then load it back onto the car.


^^ This is exactly why I have never done any tuning. If I ever do decide to do any paid tuning services it will be very discretionary.

 

not taking it that way.... I was just responding to someone earlier in thread that was saying "I should do this and do that" etc and basically i was stating same thing you mentioned about some blips above 6300k but nothing panned out to be truly knock... i remember u saying that to me. in fact i asked if u wanted to do another pull to get another view and u said 'its good' and that was that. after all u have much more knowledge than i...

idk, maybe one of my new oe plugs are beat?? anything is possible with this car.... or maybe its nothing at all and i had a crappy pull

if i met with you, i think ur tune would still be the same as u last left it and there prob wouldnt be a need to change anything. the only thing i would want changed is returning my cat warm up since i have a stock dp.....

 

yes its possible it could be nothing or maybe ur new plugs. but tuners aren't above making mistakes. hopefully if they do make one they correct it on the spot and do another pull and smooth evrything out before you take off. i can say from some experiences that there are few tuners that, to put it mildly, can be total dicks. they rush your tune, get pissed if you ask too many questions and sometimes arent the most organized people out there> (forget appts, are super late, etc) thats just freaking plain truth. and if you happen to post anything negative about ur tuning experience with them, they will chime in and respond with, "i told you to call me if you had any problems or we can do more pulls to straighten things out". being totally civil and such, but ofcourse they are gonna be like that. They have all these potential customers on the forum reading every word they type. and if you happen to actually do that (call them up privately and voice concerns about the tune) well the response isn't always that civil over the phone!!

if ur that type of tuner, the heck with u. you deserve it and it will all catch up with you eventually and you will be the next software pariah. and yes the customers (car owners) can be ******* irresponsible liars too. every story has 2 sides.
i personally found that the best tuners are also MECHANICS. very rare. ......
if i were you, i would either meet with this tuner and do a few more pulls or just hush up and get a different tune if ur that worried

 

You're more then welcome to meet up with me and I will log the car again for you and/or drop the timing further to be totally safe if you are worried. I can even check the plugs out for you if you'd like, it's no problem really. Id rather you felt better about your car and know it is safe! We can put the cat warmup back on as well, Ill get Vince to send me a new file, that's no prob either! Just because you have the cat tho doesn't mean you HAVE to have that loud startup

 

Yea, right now probably isn't the best time if we weren't doing a tune via email where we could update in the spring easily. You should really drive back up from MD to check it out when it's warmer if we did it now. So that's up to you.

 

i have more or less washed my hands in tuning the cobalt world. you keep bringing me broken **** and expecting the world. not going to happen. those i have tuned in the past know where to find me if they have any issues. those who have had issues in the past, some are my fault, and some theirs.

the BIGGEST thing is when people who want a tune have to realize that it takes more than an hour. i spend on average 4-6 hours tuning a car/truck. if you're in a hurry. go to someone else.

 

Turned somebody away today and went home early. 03 dodge cummins 2500, lots of turbo shaft end play and it was pretty obvious the damage didnt stop there.

Customer complained they're truck didn't have lots of power blamed it on a bad lift pump (right cuz I've seen that hundreds of times on a late model isb cummins...) Had the pump replaced decided that the actual fix was to retune it.

ODO has 55,000 miles guys, that is no lie and I found leaks, the transmission slipped and the turbo was shot, it would build boost and then crash into the housing because of play and that would make it feel like a surge. Found stacked edge/bullydog programmers along with the power puck which at the time was not plugged in. Also found more than half the intercooler fins punched in or filled to the brim with dead bugs, and leaves in between the cac and condenser.

Moral is, if in doubt kindly turn them away.

And for BYT specifically. I think it would be a good idea to do a compression test on EVERY LNF/LSJ you do. It's rather easy to do the test on customer cars and if it comes down to it, add 20-30 dollars for your time and effort, at the very least you can get a better understanding of how far you can go with a motor, or if you shouldn't tune it.

 

Prolly not a bad idea really. Either car is pretty easy and quick to do it on and I have the stuff

 

Nick maybe I'll drive up to ur work or to ur house. But with weather getting colder will that affect tune if u have to adjust something after we do a pull?
Getting that cat wu delete back to stock would be great.I will let u know when I get the time (prob in a week or two)

 

I purchased a "canned tune" no data logging on my car from Trifecta and am happy with the results so far. stock

I have decided to purchase agency power cat back and 3 in catless downpipe with injen ic pipes, do i need a re tune just for that.

 

Hey nick if you think youre ever compression checking my car you can blow me, no really you can!

 

Im tuned via hp tuner by a local who is a tuning master, and pretty aggressively tuned and have been for oh a good 20k and not a single issue or noise or fluid problem and i beat my car to crap

 

Wait...you can replace the end caps?

I think I may have wasted $286

 

I think he replaced his whole intercooler.

 

30odd. You gonna meet with that tuner (byt) or what?? Get that checked out... And get that cat warm up delete switched back to stock!!! Man didn't you tell the tuner you had a stock dp?? I mean why would you have that on your tune?? Let us know the outcome cuz my buddy knows a hp tuner guy around here and I wanna know what's up with your tune before I get mine

 

Hey I said nothing bad about you, i was just recalling the events of the day. I fully understood that **** happens and motors blow.

thats why i replaced it and am going back to you, hopefully we go a little bit more conservative this time:lol But yes, i went to BYT, I left with a blown cylinder number 1. It was a stock short block not a forged motor, 26 psi will do that sometimes.