mine hasnt. Youd see black paint rubbed off at the elbow in my pic if it did, then again, I dont have a hood blanket.

 

suprising u didnt get warned for writing the word *** even though its spelt wrong!

 

my 2010 doesnt have a hood blanket either...

 

my CP's never popped off. and I was running the performance piping. I loved it.

ur normal aftermarket piping...



my piping on my old balt



thats piping from Clear Image automotive.

 

I prefer the first set of piping reign1, I'm not adverse to the other one but as I said, I just think it's not clean looking, and for what fraction of a horsepower difference the two make, I'll take the first one (mandrel bent, no welds). I also thought about just picking up some pipe from summit and doign the ol chop chop weld weld.

 

mine was bent not welded from what i remember.

 

Let me address a few things here.

The 6HP comment is probably referring to the dyno testing Matt did on our charge pipe. It made 6HP over stock. No one has dyno'd a tube going over the VC vs. one going around and it wouldn't make a difference in HP. We've dyno'd enough to know.

We have seen a lot of issues with charge piping. I believe it was a Hahn setup that came loose and broke off a piece of the fuel pump. I know this has happened to a few people but I'm not sure which model they were running. Other times we have seen other brands rubbing on the hood. The ZZP pipe is flawless in every way and backed by a company with a parking lot full of Cobalts to use if you need to call in and talk about any concerns you have.

The injen is similar to other injen parts and the quality isn't there compared to the other vendors. They have a popular brand name but that doesn't make them good. Most people are replacing clamps and couplers on them.


ZZP is supporting this market and we are the only company with employees who own Cobalts and race them. We hold every track and HP record because care has been taken to ensure each part we sell outperforms other options by just a little bit. This adds up to winning performance we make available to you, the customers.

Someone mentioned Clear Image and while Dan is a great guy and the products are good, you have to think about it as more than just a single purchase in these small markets. Dan hasn't logged in, in over 6 months and is done developing for the Cobalt. Sales to those companies are being used to fund development of other platforms.

When you have a choice for a similar part and choose ZZP, you are supporting the development of your market.

Only ZZP brings you so many custom parts, cutting edge innovations, and the products that you want at affordable pricing. We do this with the support you give us buying the parts we already have. Dual injector setups, upgraded turbo kits, E85 info/conversions, LNF cams, LNF transmissions, shift linkage upgrades and much more are developed solely by you supporting our company. The more sales we have, the more mods we can develop and the faster we can make them.

Thanks again for the support and we hope that when you have a chance you choose ZZP and choose to advance the development of your vehicle platform.

 

I understand completly.

Luckily me and the other in so cal running CIA at the time never had rubbing issues.

I hope dan is doing well. Their produxts were very nice and great for the price. they were all really nice too

I hope you guys are doing well ZZP. i look forward to ur future products as well.

 

I'd like to get the ZZP upper pipes this spring when i actually have some money. Should i get the silicone couplers to go with them- or will my factory couplers suffice?

zzp downpipe k&n intake trifecta tuned.

Should i re-tune after i install my pipes?

 

factory couplers suffice, however you have pretty much destroy the stock charge pipe to get them off. might be worth buying the couplers to go with it if you ever plan on returning the car to stock.

The dealer doesnt care about aftermarket charge piping by the way... Ive never been asked about it.

 

Ugh. You should meet my dealer. They won't even work on my car unless EVERYTHING is stock, and so it still is.

 

I went to my dealer with the charge pipe and downpipe.. I had a boost leak but I couldnt find it myself. I told the dealer I got CEL and im pretty sure its a boost leak, can you find it for me and fix it? THey found that the lower stock charge pipe cracked near the stem for the vac line. Never said a thing about the upper charge pipe and replaced the lower one under warranty.

 

I wish I lived near your dealer. Mine sucks.

 

The factory couplers come off pretty easy. You just need to slit the plastic clamp rings most of the way through and then just snap them apart with a screwdriver.

 

I'm gonna make a very strange suggestion. Get stock pipe again. I saw some stock piping for sale here and you can get it DIRT cheap. People here gonna say WTF kinda suggestion is that?. Hey..YOU BROKE IT..it didn't break by itself and I say they hold up pretty damn well. If you're on a budget..that's the way to go. Just my 2cents.

Here's one for sale..$60..can prolly offer $50?

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5391344-post1.html

 

I have the Dejon with the Tbolt clamps never had an issue with them in 16 months

 

Did you get your charge pipe situation figured out?

 

like I said, you destroy the factory charge pipe... I guess I made it sound like its a huge process. It isnt. You just do what Matt here said. BUT you will be unable to use the stock couplers back on the stock pipe unless you try using clamps but it wont appear stock anymore since there will be these bright metal clamps there.

 

Yea, I did, epoxied it so I could take the frakking thing off the lift and work on the next project. No offense, I love the car, I track the car, and really, that's what I use it for, I've put like 70 miles on it in the last month or so.

I'll order the zzp charge pipe but im more interested in the turbo kit. I'd like to just get everything I need shipped at the same time, I'd order it with intercooler and charge piping. If I get the above later and the charge pipe (upper) now, can I get a credit with the kit later?

(We started a turbo diesel project involving a zr2 s10, 2005 Duramax w/Allison, dana 60 front, factory 05 3500 hd rear w/ cut axletubes and resplined shafts I have the motor, trans, truck and front axle w/ coil springs and a box full of heim joints)

 

If you order the stage 1 turbo upgrade kit, it does not come with charge tubes or intercooler. It does however include a recirculating bypass system. If you purchase a charge tube with 50mm BOV flange, then we could discount the turbo upgrade kit by the price of the bypass valve system since you wouldn't need it.

 

I finally blew off the issue of pipe material because a friend proved that compression heating makes the air inside the upper charge pipe hotter than the air in the engine compartment. It actually seems that material that conducts heat is an advantage here.

Then, lacking straightforward manufacturer dyno charts to compare (wouldn't it be cool if they'd give us charts comparing stock to stock with that part only?), I counted up the bends in the pipes, plus looked at the acuity of the bends.

Pretty crude, but better than using a dart board or manufacturer's claims to choose.

 

Wang pointed out the lack of a water jacketed turbo (s252) and I've dealt with that type of turbo before in another car and I don't think that's a safe turbo to use in road racing. We shall see, all things being fair what's the worst that can happen?

 

Na, I got the Injen pipes, an got no problems, I like em

They're the only aftermarket pipes that I've had, but a lotta people say good stuff bout those, dejon and Hahn...
But I got my upper an lower pipes with the nice couplers an T-clamps for $200 shipped
I think Hahn's was like $400somethin?? lol

 

I got my ZZP UCP on Wednesday. It's solid. haven't installed yet... Broke my right collar bone last Saturday... No driving/working on the SS for a few weeks

 

has anyone powdercoated there ZZP CP a different colour if so after sandblasting and prep stuff would it take away that rought texture?!?