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ZZP LNF Turbo Upgrade- First Dyno Session

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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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but it won't look as nice. lol.
By the time our balts get traction at that power level, the equation will change from one of power to weight to one of power to drag coefficent. Don't expect to pull away from that vette. It is a real slippery car. The balt isn't that bad though either. Would be real fun to just hang on to one of them ZR1's
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by buckyboy56
By the time our balts get traction at that power level, the equation will change from one of power to weight to one of power to drag coefficent. Don't expect to pull away from that vette. It is a real slippery car. The balt isn't that bad though either. Would be real fun to just hang on to one of them ZR1's
yea that would be a fun chevy commercial lol like the ones when the balt first came out.. where it bumps the vette and then said sibling rivalry

haha
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by buckyboy56
By the time our balts get traction at that power level, the equation will change from one of power to weight to one of power to drag coefficent. Don't expect to pull away from that vette. It is a real slippery car. The balt isn't that bad though either. Would be real fun to just hang on to one of them ZR1's
slicks/DRs and drag bags can do wonders. Look at ZZP's other cars.. low 11's already on cars making less power. traction is definitely the limiting factor here, but still...there are ways to make it less of an issue
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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After comparing my dyno charts to Ryan's twincharge dyno, it looks like I will have to make close to 500whp to run as quick as his car at 450whp. That's the advantage that a twincharge setup has. Either way, I still expect to trap over 125.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by buckyboy56
By the time our balts get traction at that power level, the equation will change from one of power to weight to one of power to drag coefficent. Don't expect to pull away from that vette. It is a real slippery car. The balt isn't that bad though either. Would be real fun to just hang on to one of them ZR1's
Could you imagine the look on his face and the audiences face after that happen LOL
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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I still <3 ZZP....just thought I'd post it again
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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bump for prices, release information, and how you guys raised fuel pressure (i'll settle for 2/3)
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltu
bump for prices, release information, and how you guys raised fuel pressure (i'll settle for 2/3)
Why would they put prices out when the kit isnt even done. And the fuel pressure upgrade is there secret, there not going to spill that out. So you might get release info.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Why would they put prices out when the kit isnt even done. And the fuel pressure upgrade is there secret, there not going to spill that out. So you might get release info.
maybe, just maybe, the fact that they put everything on their car also known as the total material involved, they could IDK, determine a markup and than give us a retail price. Its really not that hard especially if this is not the first time a company has come out with a setup for a car before. Call me crazy but the sooner they release the price, the sooner guys can determine if they are going to shell out and/or start saving. To me this is the best way to sell as many "kits" as possible. The very fact alone that one car is currently "suited up" is enough information to determine prices.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltu
maybe, just maybe, the fact that they put everything on their car also known as the total material involved, they could IDK, determine a markup and than give us a retail price. Its really not that hard especially if this is not the first time a company has come out with a setup for a car before. Call me crazy but the sooner they release the price, the sooner guys can determine if they are going to shell out and/or start saving. To me this is the best way to sell as many "kits" as possible. The very fact alone that one car is currently "suited up" is enough information to determine prices.
Thats true, but I think if they can even out price by 100-200 dollars they will win the customers. I personally think that if your going to spend the money on a big turbo kit, I go with the one that has the best results and least things go wrong, even if I have to pay more I will.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Thumbs up This is just the beginning...

Bump.. cant wait 2 pick this up.. to kick major A$$..

imagine this setup/kit on E85/E100 or 50/100 shot of NOS on top..
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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56MM isn't even that big. But that turbo with the headwork shows some great results. 410 @ 18psi is impressive.

I'm really surprised that the car makes the power so high with the stock cams.

Any plans for internals or anything? Even with a perfect tune you have to think pushing it like that is asking for issues.
It is the ported head and the higher fuel pressure and of course that turbo that are the biggest contributers. The stock cams are more agressive than most people realize. Matt make sure you have the overboost DTC off as well as your over and underboost tables dialed in and your map sensor code turned off. My car never closed the throttle on me even at 27 psi.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by redstarpa69
Bump.. cant wait 2 pick this up.. to kick major A$$..

imagine this setup/kit on E85/E100 or 50/100 shot of NOS on top..
I give it a year until we see this post from this guy in the classified section:

Currently parting out ss/tc. was running 500whp then decided to add a 100 shot of nitrous. Car went boom. All items for sale .
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by redstarpa69
Bump.. cant wait 2 pick this up.. to kick major A$$..

imagine this setup/kit on E85/E100 or 50/100 shot of NOS on top..
E85 won't work, as it negates most of the fueling potential gains from increased fuel pressure.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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any pics of thr cp's?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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yeah you will need MUCH more fuel for E85, now E85 injection, thats a different route
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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Nice numbers so far Matt.

Any news on the charge pipes? I love my DP and I would love my charge pipes from you guys.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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gonna bring this back up for into.

can / will you guys post a "whole" dyno chart?

after trying and useing both prescion and garrett turbos on my car, the BW ETT stuff is next. or FP's HTA.

i'm intersted to see at what points this turbo brakes the 20psi mark, and when it starts to make "boost"

area under the curve > all........for the most part....
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 06black
gonna bring this back up for into.

can / will you guys post a "whole" dyno chart?

after trying and useing both prescion and garrett turbos on my car, the BW ETT stuff is next. or FP's HTA.

i'm intersted to see at what points this turbo brakes the 20psi mark, and when it starts to make "boost"

area under the curve > all........for the most part....
I thought you already asked that and I said there is a long pull posted on page 5. I'm not sure what else you are looking for.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
I thought you already asked that and I said there is a long pull posted on page 5. I'm not sure what else you are looking for.
he's special.

really special.





like, short bus special i have a blue balloon and there are raspberry pickles on the window special.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
I thought you already asked that and I said there is a long pull posted on page 5. I'm not sure what else you are looking for.

a chart with a pull starting close to the 4k mark (3600) isnt something i'd call a "long pull"

something where the turbo is flaccid, say 2k, go WOT and see when she wakes up across a few different points.

positive pressure,10psi, 15psi, 20psi, ect. 5psi increments to get a good map of the boost curve Vs RPM.

Originally Posted by Area47
he's special.

really special.





like, short bus special i have a blue balloon and there are raspberry pickles on the window special.
you leave my blue balloon alone!

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Long pulls must be hard to understand

go FP HTA!
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
a chart with a pull starting close to the 4k mark (3600) isnt something i'd call a "long pull"
Going WOT at 45mph and letting off at 130mph in the same gear is a long pull- much longer than you would ever actually be in the same gear for anything other than a dyno pull. The 1-2 shift point on this car is over 45mph. On the street or track, I'd start in 2nd at anything below 75, but you want to see a dyno chart that starts in 3rd gear at 30mph? Why would anyone accellerate for 100mph in the same gear?
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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its not about the acceleration for god sakes, I'm after information about how the turbo acts on this car.
hell, lugging it in 3rd for a few moments will do nothing but raise the EGT's and help the turbo come up.

it'll make a nice comparison to the 30r and 28r kits as well as providing a look into the cars area under the curve.

hell, this would be a nice comparison to the 30r-HTA's

if you don't want to do this, fine. its your prerogative.

all you have to say is "no, we don't want to provide all the information about a product we want to sell"

i honestly figured that you guys would have a run like this on file.

you take the motor from a vary unhappy, low power-high load condition alllllllll the way to max power.

it'll really show how drivable your ignition curves are, or in this case, cam curves. and show just how linear, if at all, the turbo comes up and at which RPM points it starts becoming useful.

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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt84
I give it a year until we see this post from this guy in the classified section:

Currently parting out ss/tc. was running 500whp then decided to add a 100 shot of nitrous. Car went boom. All items for sale .
the difference is everybody tune this car differently.. its all about "the learning curve" on this motor.. having the right parts makes a world of difference from blown motor..

Originally Posted by Matt M
E85 won't work, as it negates most of the fueling potential gains from increased fuel pressure.
would a higher oct grade work on your setup.. - like 100/ 114 or 120 or higher?


Originally Posted by Area47
he's special.

really special.

like, short bus special i have a blue balloon and there are raspberry pickles on the window special.
I like the short bus.. its a smoother ride.. LOL>>>

Originally Posted by 06black

you leave my blue balloon alone!
I like the blue balloon, but the purple ones are the best.. LOL>>>
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