ZZP LNF Turbo Upgrade- First Dyno Session

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Oct 20, 2009 | 08:40 PM

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soooo what kinda valve springs/ rokcers/ cams do you guys have running with this setup? Surely those are gonna need some investigation for this engine to survive this turbo setup?

IIRC stock cams and other than valve springs its a completely stock valvetrain.

Oct 20, 2009 | 10:17 PM

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LOL. Fifty bucks for a website with 800+ products. I wish.

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Are you guys using the 2.4 turbo down pipe or the lnf style?

No, it is a new downpipe, very similar to the twincharge downpipe.

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Is this turbo ball bearing? And will this be relleased before january? I will be doing a big turbo kit in january and this is the kit i want. You guys seem to be head and shoulders above every other big turbo kit on the market.

It is not ball bearing. We should have it out by January, but we don't have a date set.

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soooo what kinda valve springs/ rokcers/ cams do you guys have running with this setup? Surely those are gonna need some investigation for this engine to survive this turbo setup?

78lb valvesprings. Cams and rockers are stock.

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Originally Posted by WaRRioR-StaTuS

this thread makes me so happy, lol and I know there is alot of questions being asked and its hard to follow up on but your actually doing amazing job on that aswell lol

my only question is, i do have the hahn IC, DP, and Exhaust, how bad would it REALLY be to use this kit with my bolt ons? I mean its just exhuast, spooling differences will be minute...right? IC I understand but will ur piping fit, or sell sell sell then buy zzp? lol thanks and once again great job!

Your IC would work fine. The DP would need to be changed. The catback should work fine, but I don't know how big it is.

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Oct 20, 2009 | 10:29 PM

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Damn impressive numbers! Very good work.

Oct 20, 2009 | 10:30 PM

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does the zzp downpipe throw codes at all? i might just get it.

Oct 20, 2009 | 10:36 PM

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I agree, it took me a couple times to figure out it actually changed. On my HPT software, if I change the axis I have to close and reopen the table for it to display correctly. The first time I changed one of the axis' I thought it had no effect lol..
(Click there obviously)

(It brings up this table with the different RPM Points, change it as you need)

(You will have to close the table then re-open it for it to show the changes!)

Very nice numbers!!

I've done that, but it causes a serious glitch in the timing. It will drop to less than 10 degrees at 7500 RPM and lose over 100hp. It seemed as though extending the tables caused the EMC to look for another table or modifier that isn't there, causing a problem.

Oct 20, 2009 | 10:44 PM

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does the zzp downpipe throw codes at all? i might just get it.

If you get one with a cat it shouldnt, or if you go catless order the angled O2 bung, and it wont.

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Since you guys seem the most experienced with the SS/TC, what would be the highest you would raise your rev limiter? Right now mine is set to stock and it seems to work great. Guess my question should be, does the power fall off after 6300rpms?

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Oct 20, 2009 | 10:45 PM

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who would have thought a modern, DI, VVT enigne will make solid power with more fuel and a better flowing head!

lol. DUH.

nice work Gents, nice work!

the misfire issue is the same thing i ran across with a few of the big boost 30r cars.

Oct 20, 2009 | 10:51 PM

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If you get one with a cat it shouldnt, or if you go catless order the angled O2 bung, and it wont.

Since you guys seem the most experienced with the SS/TC, what would be the highest you would raise your rev limiter? Right now mine is set to stock and it seems to work great. Guess my question should be, does the power fall off after 6300rpms?

On the stock turbo, I usually shifted around 6500 RPM. Power is pretty flat til a little past 6000, but then starts to taper off.

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Oct 20, 2009 | 10:55 PM

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Thanks for the quick reply, and thanks for getting my catless DP to me so fast last week, LOL. I've heard different things about the rev limiter. I've heard leave it alone, and I've heard people say to raise it so you dont hit it when shifting fast. Either way, I might raise it just to have it raised.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:08 PM

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the misfire issue is the same thing i ran across with a few of the big boost 30r cars.

After looking at the logs and studying the injector pulse widths and cam timing in the area of the misfires, I'm pretty sure that the misfire is simply the result of running out of the injector window once again.

Edit- math was wrong.

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Oct 20, 2009 | 11:09 PM

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[QUOTE=FutureEcotecOwner;4394016]If you get one with a cat it shouldnt, or if you go catless order the angled O2 bung, and it wont.

which one is better hahn or zzp?

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:10 PM

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ZZP > Hahn

Both are good downpipes, but ZZP's is alot cheaper, and they are made really well. Just look what they're doing on the stock turbo with their parts, running 11's.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:16 PM

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u had me at cheaper. lol

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:19 PM

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So pretty much the only other aftermarket parts that will fit with this kit are catbacks and intercoolers. Or will other intakes and charge piping match up.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:20 PM

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u had me at cheaper. lol

ZZP - $231.60 - catless DP with angled O2 bung for no CEL
Hahn - $324.99 - catless DP with angled O2 bung for no CEL (this is without the taxes and shipping too)

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:22 PM

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ZZP - $231.60 - catless DP with angled O2 bung for no CEL
Hahn - $324.99 - catless DP with angled O2 bung for no CEL (this is without the taxes and shipping too)

i guess zzp it is. maybe with an extra o2 bung just in case

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:26 PM

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will dejon dp work with this setup

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:27 PM

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Unless you are monitoring your stuff with a scan gauge, I dont think you really need it. But I could be wrong.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:33 PM

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500whp dyno chart from Monday. You can see where it was misfiring a little.

We also put down 495 through the full exhaust today.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:37 PM

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Black ones are the best ones haha.

YEsssssssss!!!

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:37 PM

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Thats awsome! Looking forward to some testing..and endurance of the motor itself under some extreme conditions and many laps down the track.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:45 PM

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So pretty much the only other aftermarket parts that will fit with this kit are catbacks and intercoolers. Or will other intakes and charge piping match up.

Charge tubes and ICs will still work, as well as catbacks.

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:45 PM

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I really want to see this car run Ryans car. Nice work guys!

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:53 PM

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I might be inerested in your guy's catless d/p
i loved ur header/down pipe combo for my old SS/SC
so im sure ur d/p for my SS/TC wont disapoint me...let me get pAid

Oct 20, 2009 | 11:58 PM

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Lol I like your lil misfires

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