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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Whats wrong with your ss?
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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SS was wrecked...
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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ok now this thread is starting to make a little more sense. Were any mods done to the ss? What engine modification do you plan on doing to the 2.0lsj?
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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ok now this thread is starting to make a little more sense. Were any mods done to the ss? What engine modification do you plan on doing to the 2.0lsj?
ss was stock....i wanna go with the stage 2 eventually. right now my main concern is doing the swap in a reasonable amount of time

also not to be a dick or anything like that but what does it matter the reason for doing this swap? as long as there is no damage done to the engine i really don't think it's a big deal as to why i'm doing it.

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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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If you have the tools and you know what your doing you will be able to do it within 12hrs. But if you have never pulled a motor before, especially the lsj you are in for a pretty big project. Also considering your ss was stock this motor isn't going to be worth it. Just slap the m62 on the 2.2 and you will be right back to where you were if not faster. Where at in the united states are you located?

haha it matters because its not every day someone wants to swap a 2.0 into a 2.2 ls. I could see if maybe you blew the motor on the 2.2ls or maybe if the 2.0ss was wrecked and was heavily modded. But to toss in a stock 2.0lsj motor into a 2.2ls just seems like a waste of time to the most of us, especially if its not going to be modded and or raced. You have to be practical, I mean its not every day someone is like "oh ya im going to drop a 2.0 into my ls". Every day we get people who know absolutely nothing about our cars telling us that there going to do all these crazy things and they never happen. Not to say a simple motor swap is crazy but we hear a lot of things that never happen. If you want to put your 2.0 into your 2.2 then do it, don't let anyone stop you. I just personally think its a waste of time, even more pointless on a daily driver.

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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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If you have the tools and you know what your doing you will be able to do it within 12hrs. But if you have never pulled a motor before, especially the lsj you are in for a pretty big project. Also considering your ss was stock this motor isn't going to be worth it. Just slap the m62 on the 2.2 and you will be right back to where you were if not faster. Where at in the united states are you located?

haha it matters because its not every day someone wants to swap a 2.0 into a 2.2 ls. I could see if maybe you blew the motor on the 2.2ls or maybe if the 2.0ss was wrecked and was heavily modded. But to toss in a stock 2.0lsj motor into a 2.2ls just seems like a waste of time to the most of us, especially if its not going to be modded and or raced. You have to be practical, I mean its not every day someone is like "oh ya im going to drop a 2.0 into my ls". Every day we get people who know absolutely nothing about our cars telling us that there going to do all these crazy things and they never happen. Not to say a simple motor swap is crazy but we hear a lot of things that never happen. If you want to put your 2.0 into your 2.2 then do it, don't let anyone stop you. I just personally think its a waste of time, even more pointless on a daily driver.
And that's the engine and tranny? Personally i've never pulled an engine before but the friends that are helping with the project have. So the m62 will be better off on the 2.2? why didn't GMC do that in the first place? Also i live in New Mexico
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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he could slap the m62 on it but the rods in the 2.2 can only handle so much trq. im pretty sure the stage 2 placed on the 2.2 will most def come close to braking the rods.

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And that's the engine and tranny? Personally i've never pulled an engine before but the friends that are helping with the project have. So the m62 will be better off on the 2.2? why didn't GMC do that in the first place? Also i live in New Mexico
they didnt do it in the first place because the rods in the 2.2 are garbage for handling trq. they are cast rods, not forged

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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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They also did it to separate the ss/sc from the econobox ls.
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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he could slap the m62 on it but the rods in the 2.2 can only handle so much trq. im pretty sure the stage 2 placed on the 2.2 will most def come close to braking the rods.



they didnt do it in the first place because the rods in the 2.2 are garbage for handling trq. they are cast rods, not forged
So i should just stick with the 2.0 and the supercharger?
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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just depends on what you want to get out of. if you are just wanting a small kick then put the m62 and stage 1 on the 2.2 motor. but if you are wanting go stage 2 or stage 3 or add nitrus to the car down the road, then go with the full 2.0 swap
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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by xCobalt05x
just depends on what you want to get out of. if you are just wanting a small kick then put the m62 and stage 1 on the 2.2 motor. but if you are wanting go stage 2 or stage 3 or add nitrus to the car down the road, then go with the full 2.0 swap
It's settled than 2.0 it is
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Old May 17, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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I wonder how long this is going to take. I'm going to say a minimum of 1 month before its running.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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If youve got the whole car.....just swap everything......engine, trans, ECM, Harness, brakes, suspension, etc.....anything and everything you can mechanically, The entire front subframe and powertrain assembly would be ideal. 6 strut bolts, 2 brake hoses, electrical conections, fuel line, exhaust, etc.....should take a weekend with a helper and enough tools. BUY A FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL(for both cars if they are different years).

If youve got a complete SS, thats wrecked in the rear I assume, I wouldnt waste time with an engine swap, just swap it all.

If you were close enough I would be 100% down toi help you with this. I have been seriously thinking about doing it myself.

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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simple question

Originally Posted by Maven
If youve got the whole car.....just swap everything......engine, trans, ECM, Harness, brakes, suspension, etc.....anything and everything you can mechanically, The entire front subframe and powertrain assembly would be ideal. 6 strut bolts, 2 brake hoses, electrical conections, fuel line, exhaust, etc.....should take a weekend with a helper and enough tools. BUY A FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL(for both cars if they are different years).

If youve got a complete SS, thats wrecked in the rear I assume, I wouldnt waste time with an engine swap, just swap it all.

If you were close enough I would be 100% down toi help you with this. I have been seriously thinking about doing it myself.
is there any update on this,, i'm in the same boat ,,,, and before anyone knocks me i'll let you know the story

i have 2006 ls, already upgraded fe5 suspension, with ss.sc exhaust= cost $3000 total

just bought 2007 totaled ss/sc $1200

want to swap only the engine, tranny, engine harness, ECM, everything under the hood,

what i need to know can i swap in the 07 ss/sc drive train (everything under the hood) and will it plug in and work with the ls 2006 car body harness- i have a track day coming up 10/31 and just want to see if this is doable, if i have to change the complete body harness thats going to take some more time, and personally would like to do that later if possible- one of the main reasons is that the donor car the airbags are deployed- being an 2007 they are diff than my 06

BTW i'm an mech engineer, with plenty of experience in changing an engine- have a garage, plenty of tools...... sorry after seeing some of the comments on here had to state that also.

your input would be helpful

thanks
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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is there any update on this,, i'm in the same boat ,,,, and before anyone knocks me i'll let you know the story

i have 2006 ls, already upgraded fe5 suspension, with ss.sc exhaust= cost $3000 total

just bought 2007 totaled ss/sc $1200

want to swap only the engine, tranny, engine harness, ECM, everything under the hood,

what i need to know can i swap in the 07 ss/sc drive train (everything under the hood) and will it plug in and work with the ls 2006 car body harness- i have a track day coming up 10/31 and just want to see if this is doable, if i have to change the complete body harness thats going to take some more time, and personally would like to do that later if possible- one of the main reasons is that the donor car the airbags are deployed- being an 2007 they are diff than my 06

BTW i'm an mech engineer, with plenty of experience in changing an engine- have a garage, plenty of tools...... sorry after seeing some of the comments on here had to state that also.

your input would be helpful

thanks
does anyone know?????????????????????????????????
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by duke_88_04
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supercharge/turbocharge your LS. If you push serious horsepower, then build the 2.2l with some forged parts

both of these options are cheaper and easier than what you are proposing to do.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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The LSJ has a forged bottom end stock.. stock for stock the 2.0 is a stronger engine than the 2.2. It was actually designed for boost.

The LSJ is basically the Saab LK9 which has been around, turbocharged, for years.

If you have the SS/SC just sitting there, and are prepared for a bit of a project, strip it all down and swap everything over. However, soak up all the reading you can to help prepare yourself for it, non-direct engine swaps arent exactly easy..
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Originally Posted by Jazer
The LSJ has a forged bottom end stock.. stock for stock the 2.0 is a stronger engine than the 2.2. It was actually designed for boost.

The LSJ is basically the Saab LK9 which has been around, turbocharged, for years.

If you have the SS/SC just sitting there, and are prepared for a bit of a project, strip it all down and swap everything over. However, soak up all the reading you can to help prepare yourself for it, non-direct engine swaps arent exactly easy..
again, it will be cheaper to just build the 2.2 up. The 2.2 and 2.0 are not very different, and there are almost no changes that are "built for boost" between the two. different exhaust valves (which can be replaced cheaply), stronger rods (again, can be replaced), different pistons (can be replaced) and piston oil squirters is about it. You're looking at about $1k for all of those parts. Swapping everything from an LSJ will not only be more expensive, but more time consuming. After this minor build, the 2.2 will be stronger than a stock 2.0 is anyway....
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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cheaper to build the 2.2 BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i stripped two cars and rebuilt on in one weeks time- now i went from a ls to a ss in one week and for $1500 which included zzp heat exchanger and miscellaneous stuff

the car runs great- i wish people on here really had some idea of what they are talking about_ i had real tech questions and it seemed like no one could help answer them , not even the dealer-

left me to figure it out on my own, but all is well
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stangetr
cheaper to build the 2.2 BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i stripped two cars and rebuilt on in one weeks time- now i went from a ls to a ss in one week and for $1500 which included zzp heat exchanger and miscellaneous stuff

the car runs great- i wish people on here really had some idea of what they are talking about_ i had real tech questions and it seemed like no one could help answer them , not even the dealer-

left me to figure it out on my own, but all is well
yea, but you can also buy pistons, rods, and an intake manifold for the 2.2 for under 1000 used

then throw together a turbo kit with say a gt30.... push over 325 all day

and ur looking at say 2500ish for all of it, with a hell of a lot stronger engine
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