like i posted before, they redisgned the kit, this is their new kit. it is no longer the big airbox that sits on the intake manifold. it is a streamline flat piece that sits over where the s/c used to be.

 

thats the way it should be. that big box was a waste

sweet deal .. good luck wit that

(and a little hint to everyone who types subscribed--- if you just hit thread tools at the top of the page, you can click subscribe to the tread so its just like u posted in it.. and it saves useless posts so people like me dont have to look thruu 3 pages of subscribed messages) lol just thought id give a little advice if some1 didnt kno about it

 

nice!!! that looks way better than the original.

What did they do with the throttle body setup?

 

the other end of that hooksup to the throttle body

 

cooooo, cant wait too this puppy in action after its all tuned and dialed in. Godd luck man and keep us posted on everything.

 

Damn that is going to be awesome man! I cant wait to see the finished install and some vids of it!!! Good luck with installing everything this weekend, I hope it goes smooth.


Mike

 

all these turbo balts are making my nipples hard haha

what is the expected hp output of these?

 

I used to live in roxbury... more specifically... landing...

 

holy shat im so excited i wanna see vids!o and dyno graphs!!!

 

Does anyone know what type of power the 2.0 would have with out the s/c? wouldn't it be less then the 2.2... if so wouldn't theory say that a turbo on a 2.0 would make less power then a turbo on a 2.2

 

not true...@18psi i think the turbo will put the car at 325whp and i even heard upping the boost to 22psi you will be at 400whp!

 

I find it hard to belive that just switching to a turbo is going to give that much power... If you think about it, the 2.0 with out a supercharger, would put out, i'll just say 140hp, so your saying a turbo will give the car 185 hp...

Ok so a 2.2 that is 147 hp if you add the same turbo should have the same results...

Now a 2.0 would have less power then a 2.2 right? So without the supercharger it would produce about 135-140 hp

If there is something i'm not under standign please let me know

 

the 2.0 has lower compression. lower compression means good for boost

 

You can lower the compression on a 2.2 also, so basically when tuning is available for 2.2s it will run in the 300 hp range... am I correct or no? and is there a way for twin turbo set up?

 

i dont feel like explaining it honestly lol turbos are just much more efficient in making power and some other turbos on half the boost that the TAG's turbo puts out will put out the same power bc all turbos are different.

 

to truely do the comparison your talking about, you have to realise the LSJ is built to handle boost....

when you compare the 2 with the supercharged taken off.....
in all fairness you would have to give the LSJ some high compression pistons....

because the 2.2 makes power with compression
the LSJ makes power with boost.

so if you put those pistons in your LSJ, its gonna be more than 140hp.....


all in all its a very coonfusing way to look at things.
the 2 motors are built with different goals in mind so its hard to compare them fairly.

 

I'm kinda new to the whole tuning thing, so i'm trying to learn, but it seems to me that a 2.0 would not produce as much power as a 2.2 and the 2.2 does not produce as much power as the 2.4... even if the 2.0 had high compression pistons...

my guess would be
2.0 around 130 to 135
2.2 is 145
2.4 is1 71

 

As others said, its the original intent in mind for the engineers designing them. A lot of factors play into how much power each ecotec makes.....the timings and lift of the cams, the compression of the pistons, the desired engine redline (due to stroke and rotating mass) all factor into play. Each engine is very unique in how it gets air in and out of the chamber and displacement is only one of those factors.

 

ya, Mase dynoed my car with bypass and the LSJ without S/C made 133whp. Redbasebalt dynoed his car at the TAG BBQ and it made around 127whp...... There's ur answer. Granted both have mods, so stock for stock Im not sure, but I like the fact my N/A 2.0L made more whp.

 

i figured it wou;ld be close to that, and does 325 hp sound like what his results will be form a turbo?

 

wit this setup 300whp+ easy, depending on tuning and PSI, Jon the guy with the concept kit is supposedly making 406whp. Thats why we're all wondering how this guys kit will run and hp #'s

 

I know this is a 2.0 thread... but is it possible for the same results from a 2.2? Ijust didn't think it was a reasonable gain to be in the 300s+ just by adding a turbo... but i guess with that much boost its possible, but how long will and engine handle 18-20 psi before it blows up like a time bomb?

 

stock N/A engines should never really see more than 6-8 psi so if ur looking for big power u'll have to come to he realization of internals, BUT remember almost every 1000hp+ GM cobalt race car is based off the 2.2 engine. so the potential is there, 1000 hp is obvisously an extreme example.

 

ok well i've kinda thread jacked this thread... my apologies... P7x thanks for the info...

 

ya enough of that....turbo=wet dreams....all i can say on that...but is this the set up from TAG?