2.8 Pulley Makes Me Sputter!!
I'm trying to run a Demo job and I'm in charge of the electrical but I can't get any workers!!
Say... did you buy a pully puller? Or how'd you get your hands on it. I'm gonna be needing one here soon.
Gotta jet 4 now, up in 4 hours and back to site...guess I'm taking the buss though...lol.
Well, I just ordered the 60# injectors, wiring harness and I also added the adjustable tensioner as well. Now, hopefuly i get those parts before i go for my tune!
Last edited by smurfy79; Apr 15, 2008 at 07:16 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I ran a 2.8" pulley on my stage 2 for well over a year, and i didnt baby the car at all, it drove and worked fine, dont think the issue is the fact that you swapped the pulley the cel is more than likely some other code
My ZZP 2.8 was ok on the S2 tune until it got to 6200 rpm. Then the knock set in. Took about a week and a half for the knock to appear. Shortly thereafter I went with 60s and a tune and haven't been plagued by any knock since
Well, I managed to get some free time and I put the S2 pulley back on the car and it was doing the exact same thing as before. To make a long story short I finally figured out that it was one of my spark plugs!? I could tell when I pulled #3 out that there was something wrong with it. I put 4 new NGK iridiums in and now everything is fine. Strange but maybe I'm burning lean with the 2.8" pulley and it fouled the plug?
This is something I will never understand again because some people says that they are fine with a 2.8 + the 42 lbs. Italian Joe for example... hes using now a 50 shot wet kit with 42 lbs and a 2.8 pulley. I think that he had this setup for one year and not a problem yet!!
In my region here, we only have 91 octane gaz, not more. So maybe this ask more fuel from the injectors if you use a gaz with less octane? Im still stock now and I dont know so much if Im gonna keep the 42 lbs from a stage 2 that I would like to have and to put a 2.8 pulley or if I should go with 60 lbs with it!
In my region here, we only have 91 octane gaz, not more. So maybe this ask more fuel from the injectors if you use a gaz with less octane? Im still stock now and I dont know so much if Im gonna keep the 42 lbs from a stage 2 that I would like to have and to put a 2.8 pulley or if I should go with 60 lbs with it!
This is something I will never understand again because some people says that they are fine with a 2.8 + the 42 lbs. Italian Joe for example... hes using now a 50 shot wet kit with 42 lbs and a 2.8 pulley. I think that he had this setup for one year and not a problem yet!!
In my region here, we only have 91 octane gaz, not more. So maybe this ask more fuel from the injectors if you use a gaz with less octane? Im still stock now and I dont know so much if Im gonna keep the 42 lbs from a stage 2 that I would like to have and to put a 2.8 pulley or if I should go with 60 lbs with it!
In my region here, we only have 91 octane gaz, not more. So maybe this ask more fuel from the injectors if you use a gaz with less octane? Im still stock now and I dont know so much if Im gonna keep the 42 lbs from a stage 2 that I would like to have and to put a 2.8 pulley or if I should go with 60 lbs with it!
octane is not the issue.
Ok, I really need some help on this one!I just installed my 2.8 ZZP pulley, after fighting with the damn bolts for a few hours. I started my car and it idled perfect, even better then I remember! I decided to go get some fuel for the morning and I soon found out that AS SOON as I go into boost, the car starts sputtering REALLY BAD!! If I hold the throttle down for a little bit, it continues to sputter and then the CEL flashes on and off for about 30secs and then turns off!? I'm not sure why the CEL is not "latching"? At least then I could get the code! Has anyone had this issue after intalling a smaller pulley?? NEED HELP!
Well, I managed to get some free time and I put the S2 pulley back on the car and it was doing the exact same thing as before. To make a long story short I finally figured out that it was one of my spark plugs!? I could tell when I pulled #3 out that there was something wrong with it. I put 4 new NGK iridiums in and now everything is fine. Strange but maybe I'm burning lean with the 2.8" pulley and it fouled the plug?
[QUOTE=firepinch;2233150]This is something I will never understand again because some people says that they are fine with a 2.8 + the 42 lbs. Italian Joe for example... hes using now a 50 shot wet kit with 42 lbs and a 2.8 pulley. I think that he had this setup for one year and not a problem yet!![QUOTE]
IIRC ItalianJoe has blown his motor...twice.
Per say you won't blow your motor with it anytime soon, but your car will not be running the way it should or running safely.
Last edited by BoostedYards86; Nov 25, 2008 at 09:55 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
haha, wow. I don't feel bad anymore about my limited knowlege of this car. Some of the things you people are doing to your poor cars deserves a HUGE face-palm.
some of you are calling myth on things that have been proven by tuners; people who have thoroughly read graphs put out by our cars that have said you're running too hot, you're overspinning the blower, you're IDC's are WAY high... etc etc.
All these FACTS out there that people have put personal time into researching and posting up for the good of this site and people still throw around the word "recommended" because they don't feel like using the search tool probably because they are scared of the answer they will get. And no **** it's "recommended"............because it's a BAD idea not to follow the advice.
Use the 3 years of experience on this site, and use the DECADES of car experience from our veterans and run the right **** on your cars for God's sake. You'll be faster, and your car will make the power smoother.......why wouldn't you want to run the "recommended" set-up?
some of you are calling myth on things that have been proven by tuners; people who have thoroughly read graphs put out by our cars that have said you're running too hot, you're overspinning the blower, you're IDC's are WAY high... etc etc.
All these FACTS out there that people have put personal time into researching and posting up for the good of this site and people still throw around the word "recommended" because they don't feel like using the search tool probably because they are scared of the answer they will get. And no **** it's "recommended"............because it's a BAD idea not to follow the advice.
Use the 3 years of experience on this site, and use the DECADES of car experience from our veterans and run the right **** on your cars for God's sake. You'll be faster, and your car will make the power smoother.......why wouldn't you want to run the "recommended" set-up?
Okay, i know im a little late on the thread, but...
If you get tuned for it, a 2.8 with the 42.5# is doable, im not over 100% idc and my pw is fine.
You dont NEED 60s for a 2.8, its just.. safe... but you can be safe yourself, and just not drive like a d-bag.
I dont think you should be running any less lean, the ecu should control that... but you should go to the one step colder plugs though...
I dont think you should run the stage 2 tune with the 2.8... but if you have an custom tune to lean things out a bit, youll be okay with the 42.5#.
And by all means, im not saying its "recommended".. but if you dont have teh cash, want to stay a bit faster, but plan on upgrading in the future... 42.5 with the 2.8 and a custum tune will hold you down till you get the 60s...
the only thing is youll have to pay for tuning twice... but really, its like a 10 min job to change the tune over to 60s.
If you get tuned for it, a 2.8 with the 42.5# is doable, im not over 100% idc and my pw is fine.
You dont NEED 60s for a 2.8, its just.. safe... but you can be safe yourself, and just not drive like a d-bag.
I dont think you should be running any less lean, the ecu should control that... but you should go to the one step colder plugs though...
I dont think you should run the stage 2 tune with the 2.8... but if you have an custom tune to lean things out a bit, youll be okay with the 42.5#.
And by all means, im not saying its "recommended".. but if you dont have teh cash, want to stay a bit faster, but plan on upgrading in the future... 42.5 with the 2.8 and a custum tune will hold you down till you get the 60s...
the only thing is youll have to pay for tuning twice... but really, its like a 10 min job to change the tune over to 60s.
Last edited by ShortStack; Nov 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Okay, i know im a little late on the thread, but...
If you get tuned for it, a 2.8 with the 42.5# is doable, im not over 100% idc and my pw is fine.
You dont NEED 60s for a 2.8, its just.. safe... but you can be safe yourself, and just not drive like a d-bag.
I dont think you should be running any less lean, the ecu should control that... but you should go to the one step colder plugs though...
I dont think you should run the stage 2 tune with the 2.8... but if you have an custom tune to lean things out a bit, youll be okay with the 42.5#.
If you get tuned for it, a 2.8 with the 42.5# is doable, im not over 100% idc and my pw is fine.
You dont NEED 60s for a 2.8, its just.. safe... but you can be safe yourself, and just not drive like a d-bag.
I dont think you should be running any less lean, the ecu should control that... but you should go to the one step colder plugs though...
I dont think you should run the stage 2 tune with the 2.8... but if you have an custom tune to lean things out a bit, youll be okay with the 42.5#.
OP, don't listen to these people. Listen to the research that has been done on this car:
Get 60's
You already have plugs
Get a H/E (yes another part, OMG)
Get a Tune
You'll be running perfect and you'll be more confident driving it. You won't have to baby it and hope that when you finally get that big race you've been waiting for that you are making power in all the right places of the power band. You run the wrong set up and you WILL find yourself sacraficing somewhere in your power.
There have been plenty of blown up cars running 42# injectors and 2.8 pulleys. If you put on a 2.8 you need to at least have an aeroforce guage so you can see knock and at best have a log done to see what your IDC is. I have never seen a car with a 2.8 and 42# injectors that wasn't running 100% IDC. If you get cooling mods (second H/E, dual pass and/or meth) you may get away with a 2.8 and 42# since you can run leaner and reduce knock, but it still isn't "safe".
well i have had the same thing happen to me recently, except with my 2.9 on. i have had it on for about 2 years no problem, then just last week when i was leaving work. as i was shifting to 3rd. it started sputtering just like yours. and my CEL was flashing. i went to pull over to let it sit and it just went away. almost sounded like a WRX motor lol. but i know i run a 2.9 and my tune is fine, i think it was just the weather change for me and it did it randomly. it hasnt done it since either. was just weird lol



