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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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lotta good vendors on this site u could get em this week if u wanted haha
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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That sounds like a good idea actually...HAHA, anyone wanna buy a 2.8 Nah, I think I'll just get the 60's and the tune for now. I just hope I can get the injectors before I go for the tune next month...
yeah check out a few vendors on the site they should be able to help you out. How's Fort. Crack?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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Well, thanks to everyone for the quick azz support. I do ALL of the work on my car but I'm sure not even close to being a mechanic
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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u sound like me haha
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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yeah check out a few vendors on the site they should be able to help you out. How's Fort. Crack?
Too frikin busy right now...I work for Syncrude and I'm working 18 days and then 3 off...all 12 hour days.
I'm trying to run a Demo job and I'm in charge of the electrical but I can't get any workers!!
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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Too frikin busy right now...I work for Syncrude and I'm working 18 days and then 3 off...all 12 hour days.
I'm trying to run a Demo job and I'm in charge of the electrical but I can't get any workers!!
Insane! I believe it. My dad is up there right now on a job, he's saying the same thing.

Say... did you buy a pully puller? Or how'd you get your hands on it. I'm gonna be needing one here soon.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bigrroberto
Insane! I believe it. My dad is up there right now on a job, he's saying the same thing.

Say... did you buy a pully puller? Or how'd you get your hands on it. I'm gonna be needing one here soon.
I was gonna "fab" one up at work but I ended up buying a pulley to fit the stage 2 hub.

Gotta jet 4 now, up in 4 hours and back to site...guess I'm taking the buss though...lol.

Well, I just ordered the 60# injectors, wiring harness and I also added the adjustable tensioner as well. Now, hopefuly i get those parts before i go for my tune!

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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I ran a 2.8" pulley on my stage 2 for well over a year, and i didnt baby the car at all, it drove and worked fine, dont think the issue is the fact that you swapped the pulley the cel is more than likely some other code
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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My ZZP 2.8 was ok on the S2 tune until it got to 6200 rpm. Then the knock set in. Took about a week and a half for the knock to appear. Shortly thereafter I went with 60s and a tune and haven't been plagued by any knock since
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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If you want to drive the car, can't you put the S2 pulley back on??
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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Well, I managed to get some free time and I put the S2 pulley back on the car and it was doing the exact same thing as before. To make a long story short I finally figured out that it was one of my spark plugs!? I could tell when I pulled #3 out that there was something wrong with it. I put 4 new NGK iridiums in and now everything is fine. Strange but maybe I'm burning lean with the 2.8" pulley and it fouled the plug?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by EceSSiveMod
i have a friend that has a 2.8 on stage 2 and runs it fine....every car is different....u dont NEED a tune to run it but it sure does help alot
knock retard says different
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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i hope you have 60# injectors and a tune
x2...otherwise your #4 piston is gonna be shot.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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This is something I will never understand again because some people says that they are fine with a 2.8 + the 42 lbs. Italian Joe for example... hes using now a 50 shot wet kit with 42 lbs and a 2.8 pulley. I think that he had this setup for one year and not a problem yet!!

In my region here, we only have 91 octane gaz, not more. So maybe this ask more fuel from the injectors if you use a gaz with less octane? Im still stock now and I dont know so much if Im gonna keep the 42 lbs from a stage 2 that I would like to have and to put a 2.8 pulley or if I should go with 60 lbs with it!
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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ok just to make sure will it be ok to run a 2.9 with a stg2 tune?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by firepinch
This is something I will never understand again because some people says that they are fine with a 2.8 + the 42 lbs. Italian Joe for example... hes using now a 50 shot wet kit with 42 lbs and a 2.8 pulley. I think that he had this setup for one year and not a problem yet!!

In my region here, we only have 91 octane gaz, not more. So maybe this ask more fuel from the injectors if you use a gaz with less octane? Im still stock now and I dont know so much if Im gonna keep the 42 lbs from a stage 2 that I would like to have and to put a 2.8 pulley or if I should go with 60 lbs with it!
my car is run soley on 91 octane.

octane is not the issue.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by smurfy79
Ok, I really need some help on this one!
I just installed my 2.8 ZZP pulley, after fighting with the damn bolts for a few hours. I started my car and it idled perfect, even better then I remember! I decided to go get some fuel for the morning and I soon found out that AS SOON as I go into boost, the car starts sputtering REALLY BAD!! If I hold the throttle down for a little bit, it continues to sputter and then the CEL flashes on and off for about 30secs and then turns off!? I'm not sure why the CEL is not "latching"? At least then I could get the code! Has anyone had this issue after intalling a smaller pulley?? NEED HELP!
Someone may have already said this, but. Flashing CEL = Misfire (I found this out when the injector on cyl 1 came unplugged..lol)
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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I have been running GM stage 2 and a 2.8 pulley for over 2 years and all seems fine. Has anyone actually blown up a motor with this setup or is it all hearsay / trash talk ?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by smurfy79
Well, I managed to get some free time and I put the S2 pulley back on the car and it was doing the exact same thing as before. To make a long story short I finally figured out that it was one of my spark plugs!? I could tell when I pulled #3 out that there was something wrong with it. I put 4 new NGK iridiums in and now everything is fine. Strange but maybe I'm burning lean with the 2.8" pulley and it fouled the plug?
Ya think??? You live in canada where the air is even denser then most places here in the states. In warmer weather your maxing out the injectors with a 2.9 with or without a tune for it. I could just imagine how much your injectors are hating you with that 2.8

[QUOTE=firepinch;2233150]This is something I will never understand again because some people says that they are fine with a 2.8 + the 42 lbs. Italian Joe for example... hes using now a 50 shot wet kit with 42 lbs and a 2.8 pulley. I think that he had this setup for one year and not a problem yet!![QUOTE]

IIRC ItalianJoe has blown his motor...twice.

Originally Posted by Asstyme
I have been running GM stage 2 and a 2.8 pulley for over 2 years and all seems fine. Has anyone actually blown up a motor with this setup or is it all hearsay / trash talk ?
Per say you won't blow your motor with it anytime soon, but your car will not be running the way it should or running safely.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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just get bigger injectors i say and a dyno tune
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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haha, wow. I don't feel bad anymore about my limited knowlege of this car. Some of the things you people are doing to your poor cars deserves a HUGE face-palm.

some of you are calling myth on things that have been proven by tuners; people who have thoroughly read graphs put out by our cars that have said you're running too hot, you're overspinning the blower, you're IDC's are WAY high... etc etc.

All these FACTS out there that people have put personal time into researching and posting up for the good of this site and people still throw around the word "recommended" because they don't feel like using the search tool probably because they are scared of the answer they will get. And no **** it's "recommended"............because it's a BAD idea not to follow the advice.

Use the 3 years of experience on this site, and use the DECADES of car experience from our veterans and run the right **** on your cars for God's sake. You'll be faster, and your car will make the power smoother.......why wouldn't you want to run the "recommended" set-up?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Okay, i know im a little late on the thread, but...

If you get tuned for it, a 2.8 with the 42.5# is doable, im not over 100% idc and my pw is fine.

You dont NEED 60s for a 2.8, its just.. safe... but you can be safe yourself, and just not drive like a d-bag.

I dont think you should be running any less lean, the ecu should control that... but you should go to the one step colder plugs though...

I dont think you should run the stage 2 tune with the 2.8... but if you have an custom tune to lean things out a bit, youll be okay with the 42.5#.

And by all means, im not saying its "recommended".. but if you dont have teh cash, want to stay a bit faster, but plan on upgrading in the future... 42.5 with the 2.8 and a custum tune will hold you down till you get the 60s...

the only thing is youll have to pay for tuning twice... but really, its like a 10 min job to change the tune over to 60s.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Okay, i know im a little late on the thread, but...

If you get tuned for it, a 2.8 with the 42.5# is doable, im not over 100% idc and my pw is fine.

You dont NEED 60s for a 2.8, its just.. safe... but you can be safe yourself, and just not drive like a d-bag.

I dont think you should be running any less lean, the ecu should control that... but you should go to the one step colder plugs though...

I dont think you should run the stage 2 tune with the 2.8... but if you have an custom tune to lean things out a bit, youll be okay with the 42.5#.
you just proved my point. All this capitalization of the word "NEED". What is wrong with you people? Why would you want you car running anything less than perfect? Why would you want to strain your car and push the set up to its outer limits?

OP, don't listen to these people. Listen to the research that has been done on this car:

Get 60's
You already have plugs
Get a H/E (yes another part, OMG)
Get a Tune

You'll be running perfect and you'll be more confident driving it. You won't have to baby it and hope that when you finally get that big race you've been waiting for that you are making power in all the right places of the power band. You run the wrong set up and you WILL find yourself sacraficing somewhere in your power.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Asstyme
I have been running GM stage 2 and a 2.8 pulley for over 2 years and all seems fine. Has anyone actually blown up a motor with this setup or is it all hearsay / trash talk ?
There have been plenty of blown up cars running 42# injectors and 2.8 pulleys. If you put on a 2.8 you need to at least have an aeroforce guage so you can see knock and at best have a log done to see what your IDC is. I have never seen a car with a 2.8 and 42# injectors that wasn't running 100% IDC. If you get cooling mods (second H/E, dual pass and/or meth) you may get away with a 2.8 and 42# since you can run leaner and reduce knock, but it still isn't "safe".
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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well i have had the same thing happen to me recently, except with my 2.9 on. i have had it on for about 2 years no problem, then just last week when i was leaving work. as i was shifting to 3rd. it started sputtering just like yours. and my CEL was flashing. i went to pull over to let it sit and it just went away. almost sounded like a WRX motor lol. but i know i run a 2.9 and my tune is fine, i think it was just the weather change for me and it did it randomly. it hasnt done it since either. was just weird lol
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