300hp +....
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Originally Posted by Kemo
how many other posers are there on the forum who live by what magazines tell them???
Amazing how you guys react to another owner of a cobalt when he says they are NOT performance machines. why dont you guys pick up a geo storm? i hear their crankshaft and rods can take all the way to 800 hp too!!!... adios forum posers the cobalt is NOT a performance machine lol!!!
I look at the sigs and see all these bolt ons... such a waste of money. ANd for those of you who bought a ss/sc cobalt because you think its a sports car, i feel bad for you... i'd feel let down too, knowing i spent over 20 grand on a car that can hardly do 15s lol.
ecotec is cool, if you like running 14's and 15's your whole life.
There are just too many wanna be's on this forum, too many ignorant people who think they know **** about cars. You bench racers are nothin but posers.
Amazing how you guys react to another owner of a cobalt when he says they are NOT performance machines. why dont you guys pick up a geo storm? i hear their crankshaft and rods can take all the way to 800 hp too!!!... adios forum posers the cobalt is NOT a performance machine lol!!!
I look at the sigs and see all these bolt ons... such a waste of money. ANd for those of you who bought a ss/sc cobalt because you think its a sports car, i feel bad for you... i'd feel let down too, knowing i spent over 20 grand on a car that can hardly do 15s lol.
ecotec is cool, if you like running 14's and 15's your whole life.
There are just too many wanna be's on this forum, too many ignorant people who think they know **** about cars. You bench racers are nothin but posers.
The cobalt has been taken up to 1400. That's why it's in so many different performance challenges. Doubt me? Read up on it. Or is English your second language? You do know HOW to read don't you?
Gimme a break! Lemme guess...you actually own an RS-8, got your *** handed to you, and you came on here to flame?
BTW...I thought only **** used the term POSERS!
Perhaps with your SUCKING HP you can clean ALL of our pipes huh???
Get over yourself already. And if you are gonna start something, go back to your Honda forums...where people actually give a **** about the opinion of an obvious jackass!
If you can't contribute something worthwhile...Just STFU!!!
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Kemo - http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...build_book.htm
The engine itself remains unchanged up to 1400hp. sub 11 seconds on 300+ whp with NO changes other than bolt ons. Victory_Red will beat that, and I plan to as well, and I am sure there are others. While you are on the topic of ignorance, you know there are more than a few GM engineers on here as well right? They designed it, built it, and see it as a vehicle (engine + platform) with a lot of potential.
Chief - 300+ whp is quite easy to obtain. Take a look at the various posts and opinions around, and (my advice) ask for assistance via PM. Way fewer people try to bite your head off that way. Good luck and enjoy the car.
- Solo
The engine itself remains unchanged up to 1400hp. sub 11 seconds on 300+ whp with NO changes other than bolt ons. Victory_Red will beat that, and I plan to as well, and I am sure there are others. While you are on the topic of ignorance, you know there are more than a few GM engineers on here as well right? They designed it, built it, and see it as a vehicle (engine + platform) with a lot of potential.
Chief - 300+ whp is quite easy to obtain. Take a look at the various posts and opinions around, and (my advice) ask for assistance via PM. Way fewer people try to bite your head off that way. Good luck and enjoy the car.
- Solo
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
well, 300hp would be 255whp assuming 15% drivetrain loss. So 255whp is attainable with stage 1, a small pulley, intake and some exhaust.
As far as I know, nobody has made 300whp yet, but is probably attainable with some serious mods.
As far as I know, nobody has made 300whp yet, but is probably attainable with some serious mods.
since when is there a 15% loss on any fwd cars with a decent drivetrain?
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Originally Posted by zinner
He has an SS/SC which has the LSJ. That is a strong engine.
I mean unless a forged steel crank, forged chevy pink rods aren't strong.
Just about everything in the LSJ is better and strong than the L61.
I mean unless a forged steel crank, forged chevy pink rods aren't strong.
Just about everything in the LSJ is better and strong than the L61.
oh yea im sure the stock rods can handle IN EXCESS of 800hp
what a joke!
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I know last time we dyno'd Dan got 275whp with the 2.7 pulley and 42# injectors. Now that we both got the same current setup running at 21psi I am hoping to get 285-290 whp. Although I am not going to claim anything until I actually get a dyno done. If that is true we are over 300hp at the engine. But I don't know if you were talking about power at the engine or wheels.
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Originally Posted by Kemo
The ecotec is NOT a strong built engine.
P.S. Forged rods, crankshaft, and oil cooling jets for the pistons to prevent heat soak! Eat my *******. OK. Can you even name another car that comes standard with oil cooling jets for their pistons. Like I said off yourself.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
Not to be a jack ass guys, but why would you buy a fwd 4 banger if you wanted to run sub 11's. That's kind of rediculous.
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What a Moron!!
Originally Posted by Kemo
how many other posers are there on the forum who live by what magazines tell them???
Amazing how you guys react to another owner of a cobalt when he says they are NOT performance machines. why dont you guys pick up a geo storm? i hear their crankshaft and rods can take all the way to 800 hp too!!!... adios forum posers the cobalt is NOT a performance machine lol!!!
I look at the sigs and see all these bolt ons... such a waste of money. ANd for those of you who bought a ss/sc cobalt because you think its a sports car, i feel bad for you... i'd feel let down too, knowing i spent over 20 grand on a car that can hardly do 15s lol.
ecotec is cool, if you like running 14's and 15's your whole life.
There are just too many wanna be's on this forum, too many ignorant people who think they know **** about cars. You bench racers are nothin but posers.
Amazing how you guys react to another owner of a cobalt when he says they are NOT performance machines. why dont you guys pick up a geo storm? i hear their crankshaft and rods can take all the way to 800 hp too!!!... adios forum posers the cobalt is NOT a performance machine lol!!!
I look at the sigs and see all these bolt ons... such a waste of money. ANd for those of you who bought a ss/sc cobalt because you think its a sports car, i feel bad for you... i'd feel let down too, knowing i spent over 20 grand on a car that can hardly do 15s lol.
ecotec is cool, if you like running 14's and 15's your whole life.
There are just too many wanna be's on this forum, too many ignorant people who think they know **** about cars. You bench racers are nothin but posers.
I have all the Build Books & the Stats from Gm On the ecotec! And the answer is (Your Wrong)
Look Around in the Forums Idiot there are Plenty of time sheets up w/12s & it dont take Thousands to do it!
Takes a Looney tune From Rob, 60 lbs injectors, Smaller Belt & Pulley And thats a Fact ASS!
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From: Jaffrey, NH
Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
Not to be a jack ass guys, but why would you buy a fwd 4 banger if you wanted to run sub 11's. That's kind of rediculous.
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From: Jaffrey, NH
Originally Posted by Chief
But then the question is is it really nessicary to have that much hp on a lighter car to beat the bigger block cars? Im used to drivin a camaro with a 350 plus mods. This is unfamiliar territory!!
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Originally Posted by Kemo
how many other posers are there on the forum who live by what magazines tell them???
Amazing how you guys react to another owner of a cobalt when he says they are NOT performance machines. why dont you guys pick up a geo storm? i hear their crankshaft and rods can take all the way to 800 hp too!!!... adios forum posers the cobalt is NOT a performance machine lol!!!
I look at the sigs and see all these bolt ons... such a waste of money. ANd for those of you who bought a ss/sc cobalt because you think its a sports car, i feel bad for you... i'd feel let down too, knowing i spent over 20 grand on a car that can hardly do 15s lol.
ecotec is cool, if you like running 14's and 15's your whole life.
There are just too many wanna be's on this forum, too many ignorant people who think they know **** about cars. You bench racers are nothin but posers.
Amazing how you guys react to another owner of a cobalt when he says they are NOT performance machines. why dont you guys pick up a geo storm? i hear their crankshaft and rods can take all the way to 800 hp too!!!... adios forum posers the cobalt is NOT a performance machine lol!!!
I look at the sigs and see all these bolt ons... such a waste of money. ANd for those of you who bought a ss/sc cobalt because you think its a sports car, i feel bad for you... i'd feel let down too, knowing i spent over 20 grand on a car that can hardly do 15s lol.
ecotec is cool, if you like running 14's and 15's your whole life.
There are just too many wanna be's on this forum, too many ignorant people who think they know **** about cars. You bench racers are nothin but posers.
I mean if you call 14s and 15s 13.6 @ 105 with mad wheel spin then i guess thats cool? Do some resaerch better, your posts tell me your a noob so i wont even ask.
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
all the other cobalts including the 2.4 ss have a getdrag. we have the F-35 which is SAAB and SAAB also has a similar transmission that is a 6 speed called the F-25. I am not flaming you. there is more than one magazine that has there facts wrong on this one. just test drive a car with getdrag. You will tell the difference before you even get out of 1st gear.
I forgot the specs on the transmission but it is not rated in HP per say. it is rated for a much heavier car though. I think it is plenty strong. my opinion about the clutch has changed as well. this clutch has an unusually long need for break-in time.
I forgot the specs on the transmission but it is not rated in HP per say. it is rated for a much heavier car though. I think it is plenty strong. my opinion about the clutch has changed as well. this clutch has an unusually long need for break-in time.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
since when is there a 15% loss on any fwd cars with a decent drivetrain?
And to Kino, the Cobalt SS/SC is just a much of a sports car as my cobra is. They are each fantastically fun, although in their own way. Cobra is more of a straight line rocket that can take corners, and the cobalt is marvelous when pushed to its limits in the corners and still has enough power to be plenty fun in the straights.
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Well.... Thanks for the info guys. Sorry that it blew up like this. I have a v8 but gas is killer these days. When I looked into a 4 banger I looked at hondas and other cars but im gonna stick to my domestic., hence the cobalt. I just want to make it a little fast while im on the street while my beast sleeps in the driveway... Anyhow. Thanks again guys.
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Originally Posted by Chief
Well.... Thanks for the info guys. Sorry that it blew up like this. I have a v8 but gas is killer these days. When I looked into a 4 banger I looked at hondas and other cars but im gonna stick to my domestic., hence the cobalt. I just want to make it a little fast while im on the street while my beast sleeps in the driveway... Anyhow. Thanks again guys.
Actually...thanks for helping to identify one. For that, I owe you!
I can add one thing that few others have even THOUGHT of yet...4.45 final drive PLUS the Stage II equals LOADS of fun! Woooooooohooooooooo
Thank you GM Racing!!!!
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
I believe I remember reading from GM, that they stated 12-15% drivetrain loss. Even so, if it was a mere 10%, you would still only need 270whp, which is still quite achieveable, and just 15 more than what I quoted.
And to Kino, the Cobalt SS/SC is just a much of a sports car as my cobra is. They are each fantastically fun, although in their own way. Cobra is more of a straight line rocket that can take corners, and the cobalt is marvelous when pushed to its limits in the corners and still has enough power to be plenty fun in the straights.
And to Kino, the Cobalt SS/SC is just a much of a sports car as my cobra is. They are each fantastically fun, although in their own way. Cobra is more of a straight line rocket that can take corners, and the cobalt is marvelous when pushed to its limits in the corners and still has enough power to be plenty fun in the straights.
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all you need to get for your car is gm stage 2, pulleyboyz 2.8" pulley, intake, exhaust including header, and 1 step colder properly gapped spark plugs. you will be plenty quick. with my current mods i can creep away from a LS1, probably stock but it was still a 6-speed LS1, and my catback did not give me any more than 3whp and 3lb/ft of torque, so with just stage 2, a 2.8" pulley and an intake you would be faster than my current setup