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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
dude seriously settle down im sorry if i offended you and i never called you a dick, but just on a side note so i can stop this stupid argument http://www.powerhouse411.com/playme....FL_06_V6_1.wmv
oh yea now they are running 11.3's on stock internals. Over 450rwhp at the moment. and uhh how much is that turbo kit...oh yea its 4800 bucks. http://powerhouse411.com/catalog/ind...products_id=51
so lets see..my v6 with every option possible cost me 21,900 plus the 4800....26,700 and hmm lets throw in another 300 for a real nice dyno tune and you have yourself a 550hp v6 mustang on stock internals. I'm sure some of you are understanding that my past, what...six posts have been apologizing for possibly offending you, but some of you obviously have to compensate for something.
To answer your question about the v6 drag cars some more, that is because of the v6 competition. Some of the strongest engines ever made are v6's, the dett's from the skylines and 2jz's from the supras come to mind, so it would cost alot more to make a v6 mustang as capable. I admit that and i cant see why you cant admit that it would cost more and be harder to make a 10 second fwd 4 cylinder car.
And once again the ONLY reason i made the statement about a fwd car getting into tens will be harder, is because the initial post was asking how he could make his cobalt as fast as his camaro and somebody else then mentioned getting into 10's so i was just trying to state the FACT that it will be more expensive and harder to do, i see that the way i put it may have been offensive, and it was not meant to be, that is why i repeatedly tried to apologize.
oh yea now they are running 11.3's on stock internals. Over 450rwhp at the moment. and uhh how much is that turbo kit...oh yea its 4800 bucks. http://powerhouse411.com/catalog/ind...products_id=51
so lets see..my v6 with every option possible cost me 21,900 plus the 4800....26,700 and hmm lets throw in another 300 for a real nice dyno tune and you have yourself a 550hp v6 mustang on stock internals. I'm sure some of you are understanding that my past, what...six posts have been apologizing for possibly offending you, but some of you obviously have to compensate for something.
To answer your question about the v6 drag cars some more, that is because of the v6 competition. Some of the strongest engines ever made are v6's, the dett's from the skylines and 2jz's from the supras come to mind, so it would cost alot more to make a v6 mustang as capable. I admit that and i cant see why you cant admit that it would cost more and be harder to make a 10 second fwd 4 cylinder car.
And once again the ONLY reason i made the statement about a fwd car getting into tens will be harder, is because the initial post was asking how he could make his cobalt as fast as his camaro and somebody else then mentioned getting into 10's so i was just trying to state the FACT that it will be more expensive and harder to do, i see that the way i put it may have been offensive, and it was not meant to be, that is why i repeatedly tried to apologize.
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
oh, don't mind me...
do the original poster, do a search you'll find many other threads with far more useful info.
today must be a bad day or something cause this whole thread is a bunch of horse ****.
take a look at my SIG, I should be pretty close to if not past 300WHP by mid Aug.
I'd definitely recommend replacing the pistons, when going over 300WHP for a daily driver.
besides the higher compression piston will also help a lot with those gains, try the diamond 10:1 pistons. good luck
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
dude seriously settle down im sorry if i offended you and i never called you a dick, but just on a side note so i can stop this stupid argument http://www.powerhouse411.com/playme....FL_06_V6_1.wmv
oh yea now they are running 11.3's on stock internals. Over 450rwhp at the moment. and uhh how much is that turbo kit...oh yea its 4800 bucks. http://powerhouse411.com/catalog/ind...products_id=51
so lets see..my v6 with every option possible cost me 21,900 plus the 4800....26,700 and hmm lets throw in another 300 for a real nice dyno tune and you have yourself a 550hp v6 mustang on stock internals. I'm sure some of you are understanding that my past, what...six posts have been apologizing for possibly offending you, but some of you obviously have to compensate for something.
To answer your question about the v6 drag cars some more, that is because of the v6 competition. Some of the strongest engines ever made are v6's, the dett's from the skylines and 2jz's from the supras come to mind, so it would cost alot more to make a v6 mustang as capable. I admit that and i cant see why you cant admit that it would cost more and be harder to make a 10 second fwd 4 cylinder car.
And once again the ONLY reason i made the statement about a fwd car getting into tens will be harder, is because the initial post was asking how he could make his cobalt as fast as his camaro and somebody else then mentioned getting into 10's so i was just trying to state the FACT that it will be more expensive and harder to do, i see that the way i put it may have been offensive, and it was not meant to be, that is why i repeatedly tried to apologize.
oh yea now they are running 11.3's on stock internals. Over 450rwhp at the moment. and uhh how much is that turbo kit...oh yea its 4800 bucks. http://powerhouse411.com/catalog/ind...products_id=51
so lets see..my v6 with every option possible cost me 21,900 plus the 4800....26,700 and hmm lets throw in another 300 for a real nice dyno tune and you have yourself a 550hp v6 mustang on stock internals. I'm sure some of you are understanding that my past, what...six posts have been apologizing for possibly offending you, but some of you obviously have to compensate for something.
To answer your question about the v6 drag cars some more, that is because of the v6 competition. Some of the strongest engines ever made are v6's, the dett's from the skylines and 2jz's from the supras come to mind, so it would cost alot more to make a v6 mustang as capable. I admit that and i cant see why you cant admit that it would cost more and be harder to make a 10 second fwd 4 cylinder car.
And once again the ONLY reason i made the statement about a fwd car getting into tens will be harder, is because the initial post was asking how he could make his cobalt as fast as his camaro and somebody else then mentioned getting into 10's so i was just trying to state the FACT that it will be more expensive and harder to do, i see that the way i put it may have been offensive, and it was not meant to be, that is why i repeatedly tried to apologize.
I have to say it is quite interesting but that $4800 can quite easily become almost $10000 to reach 11.3 to get all the options they list and proper set up. No way can you drop $4800 and the turbo in and good tune to get to 11.3. the power has to get to the ground too.
thanks for the info. Unlike others on here who post wildly I respect any car that can go fast. it does not matter what you used to get there fast, but rather how quickly you did get there. that is why it is okay to try with a V8 V6 or a 2.0L 4 cyl. that happens to have a SUPERCHARGER on it.
you have to keep in mind. with dropping a $2000 on the car for a pulley, 60 lbs inj., HPTUner software, intake and exhaust the car will go high 12's. Curious to know if you can do that with a mustang v-6? (this question was asked out of respect, and curiosity - not flaming).
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
It will likely cost more. it is great that the engine can handle according to the aftermarket company, but what does ford think of this? the 450HP was reached with race gas. they talk about stock block and clutch but what about all the options like dual fuel pump and such. sorry but I doubt just spending 4800 will do it. that will give you a minimum of 285hp which is quite good. more research and questioning is needed to make a sound decision and budget. drag radials were likely used. race gas alone is quite the expense everytime you go out.
I have to say it is quite interesting but that $4800 can quite easily become almost $10000 to reach 11.3 to get all the options they list and proper set up. No way can you drop $4800 and the turbo in and good tune to get to 11.3. the power has to get to the ground too.
thanks for the info. Unlike others on here who post wildly I respect any car that can go fast. it does not matter what you used to get there fast, but rather how quickly you did get there. that is why it is okay to try with a V8 V6 or a 2.0L 4 cyl. that happens to have a SUPERCHARGER on it.
you have to keep in mind. with dropping a $2000 on the car for a pulley, 60 lbs inj., HPTUner software, intake and exhaust the car will go high 12's. Curious to know if you can do that with a mustang v-6? (this question was asked out of respect, and curiosity - not flaming).
I have to say it is quite interesting but that $4800 can quite easily become almost $10000 to reach 11.3 to get all the options they list and proper set up. No way can you drop $4800 and the turbo in and good tune to get to 11.3. the power has to get to the ground too.
thanks for the info. Unlike others on here who post wildly I respect any car that can go fast. it does not matter what you used to get there fast, but rather how quickly you did get there. that is why it is okay to try with a V8 V6 or a 2.0L 4 cyl. that happens to have a SUPERCHARGER on it.
you have to keep in mind. with dropping a $2000 on the car for a pulley, 60 lbs inj., HPTUner software, intake and exhaust the car will go high 12's. Curious to know if you can do that with a mustang v-6? (this question was asked out of respect, and curiosity - not flaming).
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Originally Posted by BlilBT
Dude Look It up>>>>You come in Questioning & want us to defend!
If you are so damn Good! You should Know that the Build book For Gm Has been out for awhile!
Yes there are 5 cars on the front Stock to 1400 HP >>>>>>>>>>>>LOOK IT UP!
& Your right they arent on the Car! But stock internals are forged & good according to gm for 300+Hp! (Fact)
Oh & the guy that ran 12s Posted>> He also made the Program, So get over it<< YOU OVER PAID & YES>> US 4 BANGING POSERS ARE THAT FAST!
Even a GooD Captain Knows When His Ship Is Going Down! (But you Live & Learn!)
If you are so damn Good! You should Know that the Build book For Gm Has been out for awhile!
Yes there are 5 cars on the front Stock to 1400 HP >>>>>>>>>>>>LOOK IT UP!
& Your right they arent on the Car!
But stock internals are forged & good according to gm for 300+Hp! (Fact)Oh & the guy that ran 12s Posted>> He also made the Program, So get over it<< YOU OVER PAID & YES>> US 4 BANGING POSERS ARE THAT FAST!
Even a GooD Captain Knows When His Ship Is Going Down!
(But you Live & Learn!)Another fact you cannot build your LSJ to handle 1400hp ever!!
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Originally Posted by Kemo
800 horsepower? LOL thats the biggest Bullshit i have ever heard. The ecotec is NOT a strong built engine.
check the build book... 400hp is EASILY harnessed by a STOCK Ecotec motor with bigger pulley/injectors and whatnot... Pistons reccomended, rods/crank good to 500hp, block... even more...
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Originally Posted by NightmareRacing
then he obviously hasn't dynoed Big Block cars...
I think most of all 4 pages was preaching to the choir. From owning a car from both world (see sig) you are comparing aple to hmmm ice cream? lol
and who da heck cares who makes what fast? so it ain't your cup of tee, who asked ya? maybe to them it makes no sens to mod v8 cars that suck gas to no avail...heck, my dad doesn't get it why I must have 600+hp in my hotrod!
I think most of all 4 pages was preaching to the choir. From owning a car from both world (see sig) you are comparing aple to hmmm ice cream? lol
and who da heck cares who makes what fast? so it ain't your cup of tee, who asked ya? maybe to them it makes no sens to mod v8 cars that suck gas to no avail...heck, my dad doesn't get it why I must have 600+hp in my hotrod!
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Originally Posted by CoBOT
Less than 5 people(not teams) in Cobalts have ran 12s on here.(Fact)
Another fact you cannot build your LSJ to handle 1400hp ever!!
Me>You
Another fact you cannot build your LSJ to handle 1400hp ever!!
Me>You
Thing that sucks is it looks Like you live in Oklahoma,, That Sucks I lived there to & never seen any1 as stupid as you!
You Really are stupid! GM has A team With everything from 250 hp to 1400 Hp drag car(Fact)
Im done dealing with You,, Before you Look Like a Bigger tool
You Better do your Home work! Oh By the way the 1400 Hp Car does 185 mph in the Quarter in the fwd class! Plus these cars are new just wait you will see alot more cars doing better!
Last is: You should work for Gm,, Since your a ricer Or Mustang *** that Knows it all & Gm is Lying to us all!
We all need to send back our Build Books, Because they are Blank Inside & according to you it cant be done! Engineers at Gm are all Bunch of dumbasses & Cobot Knows everything (NOT!!!!!!)
I Know what v8 are like to I own:
1963 Dodge 330 w/426 Maxwedge with Push button Trans! Less than 100 Left
1969 Camaro Convertible w/502 Crate Motor, 2002 leather Interior,6 Speed Trans & Disc Brakes
1963 Plymouth Savoy Stick 426 Maxwedge (Not Restored Yet) Sister to the dodge
Both Cars Completely Restored!
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Originally Posted by BlilBT
I have Robs Looney tune & Plenty of upgrades,,I dont list Because I dont see the Point & im more than sure there are more than 5 Peps that got it to!
Thing that sucks is it looks Like you live in Oklahoma,, That Sucks I lived there to & never seen any1 as stupid as you!
You Really are stupid! GM has A team With everything from 250 hp to 1400 Hp drag car(Fact)
Im done dealing with You,, Before you Look Like a Bigger tool You Better do your Home work! Oh By the way the 1400 Hp Car does 185 mph in the Quarter in the fwd class!
Plus these cars are new just wait you will see alot more cars doing better!
Last is: You should work for Gm,, Since your a ricer Or Mustang *** that Knows it all & Gm is Lying to us all!
We all need to send back our Build Books, Because they are Blank Inside & according to you it cant be done! Engineers at Gm are all Bunch of dumbasses & Cobot Knows everything (NOT!!!!!!)
I Know what v8 are like to I own:
1963 Dodge 330 w/426 Maxwedge with Push button Trans! Less than 100 Left
1969 Camaro Convertible w/502 Crate Motor, 2002 leather Interior,6 Speed Trans & Disc Brakes
1963 Plymouth Savoy Stick 426 Maxwedge (Not Restored Yet) Sister to the dodge
Both Cars Completely Restored!
Thing that sucks is it looks Like you live in Oklahoma,, That Sucks I lived there to & never seen any1 as stupid as you!
You Really are stupid! GM has A team With everything from 250 hp to 1400 Hp drag car(Fact)
Im done dealing with You,, Before you Look Like a Bigger tool
You Better do your Home work! Oh By the way the 1400 Hp Car does 185 mph in the Quarter in the fwd class! Plus these cars are new just wait you will see alot more cars doing better!
Last is: You should work for Gm,, Since your a ricer Or Mustang *** that Knows it all & Gm is Lying to us all!
We all need to send back our Build Books, Because they are Blank Inside & according to you it cant be done! Engineers at Gm are all Bunch of dumbasses & Cobot Knows everything (NOT!!!!!!)
I Know what v8 are like to I own:
1963 Dodge 330 w/426 Maxwedge with Push button Trans! Less than 100 Left
1969 Camaro Convertible w/502 Crate Motor, 2002 leather Interior,6 Speed Trans & Disc Brakes
1963 Plymouth Savoy Stick 426 Maxwedge (Not Restored Yet) Sister to the dodge
Both Cars Completely Restored!
I coud care less how many people have the same stuff as Rob, I only care about how many people have ran the same times as Rob. Right now that number is less than 5.
Now on to the build book, obviously you do not have it. The LSJ (2.0l SS/SC motor) can not handle 1400hp, not even the block can handle 1400hp, that is according to "the book"
Do some more research before you start insulting people.Who cares what cars you have??? Does that make you more knowledgable on Cobalts?
And if you could read I said,
Originally Posted by coBot
Less than 5 people(not teams) in Cobalts have ran 12s on here.(Fact)
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From: Ft Lauderdale
Originally Posted by CoBOT
Less than 5 people(not teams) in Cobalts have ran 12s on here.(Fact)
Another fact you cannot build your LSJ to handle 1400hp ever!!
Me>You
Another fact you cannot build your LSJ to handle 1400hp ever!!
Me>You
Heres the facts! (To the Poster 300 hp on enternals is right at Limit according to GM) See Stock to 400 Hp! This also covers the 2.2 L
Guess you Proved me wrong!!
NOPE YOU Cant !!!
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Originally Posted by BlilBT
Well I think your facts are screwed up!
Heres the facts! (To the Poster 300 hp on enternals is right at Limit according to GM) See Stock to 400 Hp! This also covers the 2.2 L
Guess you Proved me wrong!!
NOPE YOU Cant !!!
Heres the facts! (To the Poster 300 hp on enternals is right at Limit according to GM) See Stock to 400 Hp! This also covers the 2.2 L
Guess you Proved me wrong!!
NOPE YOU Cant !!!
The only part the 1400hp motors uses from the LSJs is the valve cover. Damn i stand corrected. I guess you can build a 1400hp motor using your LSJ, from the valve cover up. AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by CoBOT
The only part the 1400hp motors uses from the LSJs is the valve cover. Damn i stand corrected. I guess you can build a 1400hp motor using your LSJ, from the valve cover up. AWESOME!
If you read it all It Builds both Motors
That the last I have to say<<You just are looking for ways out & I got the book you said I didnt!
I've Read you havent & you still dont Believe!
So go some where else with all that crap you Posted & Find some 1 that Cares Hopefully the Mods will Lock this Thread & let it Die!
Because it anit worth the time to listen to some 1 that know it all>> With Nothing to bac it up!
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Originally Posted by BlilBT
You Know some peps you just cant satisfy so Goodbye!
If you read it all It Builds both Motors
That the last I have to say<<You just are looking for ways out & I got the book you said I didnt!
I've Read you havent & you still dont Believe!
So go some where else with all that crap you Posted & Find some 1 that Cares Hopefully the Mods will Lock this Thread & let it Die!
Because it anit worth the time to listen to some 1 that know it all>> With Nothing to bac it up!
If you read it all It Builds both Motors
That the last I have to say<<You just are looking for ways out & I got the book you said I didnt!
I've Read you havent & you still dont Believe!
So go some where else with all that crap you Posted & Find some 1 that Cares Hopefully the Mods will Lock this Thread & let it Die!
Because it anit worth the time to listen to some 1 that know it all>> With Nothing to bac it up!
Show me all the parts used on the 1400hp motors that come from an LSJ.
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From: Ft Lauderdale
Originally Posted by Steve99gxe
dude, where did you get taht manual from? i would like to get it
Not Sure of the cost>>The Parts Guy I deal With Gave it to me!
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