where talking almost stock with cooling mods so yeah than i can see that.. but put now take 2 stock ss
one with a 2.6 and a intake and one with a 3.0 and a intake both cars have 60 injectors..one run on a dyno i bet you see better numbers with the 2.6 im not saying yeah go out and put a 2.6 on a stock bolt. no hell no you need the cooling mod but to say what these people are saying that with cooling mods a 3X whatever well make more than a 2.x no not happen like i said if you got the cooling mods more boost more power

 

I have no idea what you just said... it hurt my head to try and read an decipher what you just typed.

Please... use punctuation.

 

i got meth and corba heat exchange one my car not tunned yet so, tell me how im getting heatsoak.where it coming from god i told him to stop giving me that heat soak when i race,hahaha. blower cold as ice yeah im running a **** afr it was like 11.8 but im getting the car tunned soon. but if im doing that to a m3 please wait till its done. plus i really dont care anymore when i go to get the car dynoed we well see what ring i need that would be best but for my mods i dont know

 

your car. is no where near 300whp.

his car. HAD SLICKS.

 

hahaha apparently that makes sense maybe im imagining my car being fast... .weird haha

 

Wow there are some ignorant posts in this thread, people that dont understand how to make power with a car shouldnt post like they know everything, it just makes it hard for the newbs to learn anything about these cars when these dumb@sses post INCORRECT facts.
Of course a 2.5" pulley will make your car feel fast as hell, but you better shift it at 5k rpms so it doesnt blow up due to blower outlet temps being way to high. You will always feel gains with smaller pulleys in the LOWER RPMS!
I wouldnt rely on the boost being at unsafe/unefficient boost levels to "flatten" the powerband and gain torque.

 

Area so with the right tuning do you think a 2.6 pulley will make 290whp with meth and about 260wtq??? I think I am going too try the 2.6 and see how it goes....

 

hmmmm

 

Damn and here i was running that ring, coasting through the traps at 6600 rpms all day and the motor never went. Hmm must be pure luck...


Note to all: smaller rings aren't for everyone

 

i was waiting for someone to mention that... lol

 

Under the presumption that you work for ZZP, I make this statement:

Is that why one of your own employees runs a 2.55" on his GTP (Well, actually its a GT with some "bolt-ons")?

So, if the 2.5" & 2.6" rings are as useless as you guys (ZZP) make them out to be... then why do you sell them?

 

power still falls off at the same rpm on stock cams/head/blower.


if we. the users are so wrong

PROVE IT. cooling mods aside from it all. ***** out power.

 

Exactly!!!

So why are you posting again?

See what i did there...

 

Its funny what's going on here...

ZZP is basically challenging all the people of this site that have made the highest numbers with the M62, the people who have made the quickest cars... and basically telling them that their cars might have felt fast, but they weren't; and that their 2.5 & 2.6 Pulley dyno sheets are garbage.

Reminds me of that time this one company tried to tell us that they made 440whp with a Twincharge Kit... but the only proof they had was a sketchy dyno sheet and a video of the rear end of the car on a dyno... i just can't seem to remember who that was though...

 

Guys I'm still trying to find out how I would make more power with a bigger ring I mean I got all cooling mods and a built motor so if someone can explain to me how???????

O and real quick I don't mean to side track, but I just put a zzp TB spacer on.I noticed that my rpm not in gear is at 900 it used to be at 800 rpm I also noticed that my clutch and brake pedel are stiffer and my A/F stay steader than when it used to jump around. There are no leaks I checked as anyone noticed this?

 

L M F A O...
zzpizzle for the lizzle.

 

And this reminds me of the time where a bunch of people we're calling us out and then got put to shame at the track, proved to be completely wrong on the dyno, schooled when we took all the HP records and so on. Not only are we going to prove ourselves at the track with 'unbelievable times' we're going to make it look easy...
If you read the posts we've already stated that optimal pulley size changes with mods and octane.

 

I understand that, but throughout this thread, it just seems like you guys are flip-flopping. There are many times that some of you guys make it sound as if there is no use in running a 2.5" or 2.6" because you'll make more power with a larger ring.

Consistency in your story is the problem here.

 

Actually, he tried a 2.55 and then switched to a 2.7 because it made the same power. He is now running a 2.8. He also runs a cam much bigger than the stock one. Furthermore, he has spare engines lying around that he can install himself for next to nothing if something went wrong. The LSJ guys that we are trying to look out for would be out thousands of dollars if their engine failed. You picked an example that supports exactly what we are saying.

Wow, some of you guys are really getting brave with your innuendos.

 

It difficult to give answers to 20 people who seem to be asking the same question but in reality are not.

The intention of the post is to keep people from blowing up their cars and dispell the myth that smaller pulleys always make more power. And to correct the assertion that the blower RPM itself is a problem due to supposed bearing failure.

Point is that for nearly all people on this forum, a 3.1 or 3.0 pulley is ideal. There are some people, although few where a 2.x pulley would be a better choice but it's always better to err on the side of caution.

The 2.0 likes RPM so in a situation where you short shift the car, you never get to peak HP. In that case, the car is going to feel faster with a small pulley and even give better times at the track because the average HP will be higher due to lower engine rpms through the pass. However to say that this means smaller pulleys are better is a misconception. The engine should be spinning to a higher rpm with a larger pulley (possibly) which would increase the average HP of the pass due to a better powerband.

But back on recommended pulley size. If you run higher octane, the ideal pulley size drops. If you ran alcohol injection it would as well. However I hesitate to even say that because on this forum people think that alcohol and water are the same thing when in fact they are near opposites for purposes of induction. So the last thing I want to do is give the perception that you can spray blue washer fluid in your engine with a smaller pulley and make more power.

Back on ideal pulley size. It is depending on boost level of the blower. This is dependent on the car's exhaust, whether you run a cat, the barometer, engine displacement, intercooler efficiency, cams, head, etc. If you can get the boost level down, then ideal pulley size will drop. If you can't, then a larger pulley size will make better power. But no matter what the situation, a larger pulley is always safer and if you can make power with a larger pulley size, then that is the best route to go. I'm guessing that when we're running 11's with a stock M62 it won't be with a 3" pulley. It will be something small but the car will be setup so that boost levels are no higher than 16psi. Some of this is speculation of course since this type of build doesn't exist at the time of this post but hopefully it conveys the idea.

 

I run 17 psi on my 2.6 setup.

 

hello. answer my questions.

 

2.7 = better imo

 

that's it?........ that's no bueno

 

No I will not make out with you.

jk
What was the question?