2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Funny thing is a few select members actually know what 300+ whp feels like. It is pretty darn quick and until you have reached that level you really won't understand.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
Funny thing is a few select members actually know what 300+ whp feels like. It is pretty darn quick and until you have reached that level you really won't understand.
You're right about that. I honestly don't know what 300whp feels like on these cars. I'ts probably damn fast.

Only time, and experience will allow me to learn.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
Funny thing is a few select members actually know what 300+ whp feels like. It is pretty darn quick and until you have reached that level you really won't understand.

i really dont see the point of more than 300whp in a fwd daily driver car. its rally hard to get it all to the ground...even while already moving
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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235 bfg kdw nt's get the job done for me in second gear
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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I know what it feels like, just not in a fwd car. I am looking forward to getting mine pretty soon. Still wonder when the air freight is supposed to get to the states...
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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I must say, I enjoy my 300 very much
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by phatnackySS
i really dont see the point of more than 300whp in a fwd daily driver car. its rally hard to get it all to the ground...even while already moving
With the proper traction mods you will be surprised at how well this car can hook up.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
235 bfg kdw nt's get the job done for me in second gear
Wow, I'm surprised you still don't spin those in second! They must hook pretty nice.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Wow, I'm surprised you still don't spin those in second! They must hook pretty nice.
it is a damn good tire
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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those are the ones on the srt-4's right?
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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yeah just wider and the newer series thats all
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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yea the ones on the srt4 are like 205
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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hmmm. interesting.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
it is a damn good tire
I had the orginal KDW on my supercharged Z24 in a 215/45/17 size and they did indeed hook pretty well. I would have bought a set of KDW nt's for my current tires, but I decided to try out the Toyo T1R's since they were one of the few available in 235/45/17 size for my Rota's. I must say my Toyo's hook pretty well on the street when it's above 40ish outside and especially at the track when lowered down in pressure.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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its weird to me that the same people that complain about there car having traction with a stg2 complain that the numbers of the tvs are so low and is not worth the money....
<<<saturn=cheap bastard! If not for that I might not be driving it in the 1st place, lol.

I love the TVS and anything else that gives you reliable power. Whatever route you go doesn't mean another is not good, many ways to get the same results...
This guy will make power +400whp,don't worry about that not the typical saturn owner.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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I feel, strongly, that because he was still using the stock cams he is no where near the top that the TVS can make. In fact, cams would most likely net far more for the car mentioned then any change to the intake manifold.

272 cam's that push the torque curve up a couple k rpms should net 400whp. Plus if they drop the low end torque, hooking up on the launch would be easier.

Oh, since cams would lower the manifold psi, it would also lower the IAT2 temps. That right there alone would net more power.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Hmmm.... I guess my theory wasn't too far off.

At least I'm not getting lynched for saying it...
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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nope my car makes power up top just fine, actually peak power at 7200
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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Their talking about reving this car to 8k rpms. If he is making peak power around 7.2k rpms, then he would make a fair bit more power with more agressive cams.
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Originally Posted by InfinityzeN
I feel, strongly, that because he was still using the stock cams he is no where near the top that the TVS can make. In fact, cams would most likely net far more for the car mentioned then any change to the intake manifold.

272 cam's that push the torque curve up a couple k rpms should net 400whp. Plus if they drop the low end torque, hooking up on the launch would be easier.

Oh, since cams would lower the manifold psi, it would also lower the IAT2 temps. That right there alone would net more power.
the cams don't lose the low end. that has to do with shims and proper lash. the power curve is actually wider than with stock cams. weird wild stuff
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
it is a damn good tire
i second that
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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what is the determining factor for us when it comes to making torque in a uniform fashion? I don't know if I asked that right...
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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Engine air flow to induction air flow.

*Edit*
I'm assuming you ment having a flat torque curve, sooooooo here goes...

With a posative displacement supercharger, you want enough engine flow to avoid boost creep in the higher rpms. The SC flows a set amount of air per engine rpm. Since the SC and engine rpm are directly linked, each engine cycle will get about the same amount of air (granted, there is some slight variation due to mechanical efficency, heat efficency, and other things). However, since they are linked in this way, your boost will be dead flat until something happens to change this.

That boost creep I mentioned, well that is your engine flowing less air per rpm. So the air compresses slowly more and more. Anything that will help your engine flow better will avoid this and flatten your torque curve more (by this, I mean help get rid of the high rpm torque drop). You'll never get rid of all the drop with a roots type blower, since it will heat the air. Hot air is less dense, so less actual air. Air+fuel=power. But getting rid of the boost creep will lower temps (denser air), let your blower work easier (lower psi, so less drive loss), and let you run more timing.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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pretty impressive but wasn't bill from hahn claiming IATs below 100degrees with their turbo swap kit? if so, to me the turbo swap would be more efficient. and less work consider all the internals whoever this guy is has done..i imagine the turbo got better gas mileage to, which is a big thing for me
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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350WHP is impressive

350+whp

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