what is the difference between the base kit and the progressive work. Do you have to have the controller like the progressive kit. I would like to get a better understanding of the progressive and the base kit. Thanks

 

what is this timing you speak of? how does that increase boost?

 

timing doesnt increase boost. lowering your iats will allow you to run more boost.

 

Yea even n/a apps can make some increased power with water/methanol injection. Just the forced injection guys who really make power with it.


Our DevilsOwn Stage 1 "Base" injection kit incorporates a boost switch that activates the system at a specific PSI. It’s adjustable from 2-10 psi or 6-30psi, but you can run up to 250 PSI through the switch, so it’s very reliable. This system will turn on at a level you set and stay on until you drop below that level. It’s On/Off. It can’t dial in exact flow, but it can get you within a range.

DevilsOwn Stage 2 "Progressive" kits offer high functionality and performance, the ability to vary the flow based on inputs (maf, map, tps, ait, any 0-5v source). Most users run it off of separate GM style map sensor if there car does not already have a map sensor. With the Stage 2 Kit you set a starting boost and a full boost and the system will progressively adjust the flow between those two points.

Both styles work. We tell our customers that if budget is the primary concern, get the base injection kit. If you have a little more money to spend or want something with more user control, the progressive kit is worth it.


This is a supporting mod it will not directly add more timing or more boost. It does allow for you to be more aggresive on your tunes and increase this by other means.

There is no rule of thumb on how much timing or boost can be increased when running water methanol injection system. Each engine will react to it differently. In general most engines you can usually run the equivalent boost and timing of your 100 octane tune. While on pump gas and with a 50/50 mix of water methanol.

 

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What size nozzle would you recommend for a 360hp tvs cat?

 

I would start off with the do5 maybe even a do7 nozzle.

 

ive got a strange setup on my lsj. im direct injecting meth on an air to air tvs setup... currently im running a 50/50 setup. i dont need any cooling effects from the meth water mix because my air to air setup is so efficient. how much meth can/should i be running on the car?

 

Gasoline's combustion energy is about 115,000 btu/lb.

Methyl Alcohol's combustion energy is about 10,000 btu/lb.

What does that mean in terms of cylinder pressure and heat?

 

I have an OTTP stage 2 and bought one of you're stage 1 kits. I will be running an extra heat exchanger and dual pass. The kit came with i believe a do3 and do7 nozzle. What should i use for my set up?

Thanks

 

if i wanted to add a led to my kit what wire should i tap into? i am using a relay style kit

 

I would still run atleast a do5 the tvs while its more effecent than the heaton is still not effecent like a twin screw.

cylinder pressure is usually only increased with added timing.

Kinda depedns on what your iat readings are. if they are about 150 i would run the do 7 if they are below i would run the do3

Yeap just hook the led up to the positive wire between the pump and the relay.

 

Rodney by using the solinoid you guys have listed will this get rid of the sifening that happening through the check valve under vacuum?

 

I have a near stock 07 SS/Sc only mod is a zzp 3" CAI. I do plan on upgrading one of these days but I think before I do boost I want to open up the restrictions I.e exhaust system, ported head and get some cooling mods. What kit would be the most ideal and what is the difficulty level of installing a meth kit?

 

ive got 4 meth injectors, the small ones. but im wondering more on the mixture to use of meth

 

solenoid will work the same as a check vavle other than cv use the system pressure to work and the solenoid uses some power to do it.


Our 2.5 bar kit is what i would recomend for you. Just hook up a few wires and your on the road. Takes about 2.5 hrs to install.

 

someone had the idea of running two lines before and after the SC. no one was able to answer if its redundant or not...any takes

 

can you please provide me link to a 5 graph nozzle for the universal kit? thank you.

 

Pedobear
I would not mess with it.


rcorona8

we have 5 gph nozzles in stock.

 

I am currently running a 6gph Nozzle with a 75/25 mix (sooo.. 4.5ghp methanol). I am pleased with the amount of timing i can pull on this mixture, however I'd like to see my IAT2s drop further.

So, I was thinking about running a 10gph nozzle on a 50/50 mix (5gph methanol?) which will keep fueling similar, but send in lots more water for better cooling i would think?

Is my logic sound here?

Thanks!

 

I've been running 10gph 55/45 for a while now and am liking the result. From the 7gph to the 10gph I saw a 20* drop in ait#'s and the but dyno says it's working. Hopefully going to be dynon' this weekend, might play around with different pulleys and nozzles.

 

Is it save to run meth on a car that has 120,000 miles on it?

 

Lets say i get my car hptuned for meth, and i run out of it, will the car run differently since it doesnt see the higher octane that it is tuned for or will it go back to normal 93 octane or whatever it's set to, im asking just in case the system malfunction or breaks or anything.

 

Whomever tunes your car should tune a high octane and low octane mode. In the event of meth failure your car will switch to the low octane tune.

 

sweet good to know, thanks for the info dude coz im definatly considering meth injection soon before i get the car tuned !