So my buddy and I are going to make some dual passes and single passes. What bungs do you guys recommend that are cheap but yet still high quality?

We found these but hopefully there is something cheaper to cut down our costs.
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15253/10002/-1

Were trying to bring dual passes/single pass options out to the lsj community a hell of a lot cheaper then vendors

 

check the hardware store when you get your bolts

 

i was going to be polite, but have concluded that seeing as you are a moron you should be treated as such. Stupid. You know so little, go find your own bungs, you dont need help here.

Do it cheaper than the rip off vendors? Like ZZP at 400 bux, just ripping you off? What a joke. I cant wait to see your cheap functional single pass laminova; will that include butchered cores?

 

Wooooooooo qwikredline you needa relax there bud. First off the dual pass setup is extremely easy to make, and we were going to have a professional shop do it, but instead of charging outrageous prices we found a way that we can cut costs down a decent amount and therefore would be able to bring it to the community at a cheaper price then what vendors are charging for the dual pass.

The single pass setup was going to be for me and a buddy to simply try. I don't know where the hell you come off calling me a moron when I was simply asking what fittings you guys thought were of high quality but yet still on the cheaper side.

Just because we are trying to bring something to the lsj community at a cheaper price then vendors makes us a moron? You and I both know that it's not difficult to make a dual pass, the single pass we shall see but from what I have seen from flatgod's pictures I don't see why any half way decent shop couldn't do this fairly cheap.

 

Like I said. Go price out machining and welding. Italian Joe serves the community with decent dual pass end plates. OTTP sell decent Option B for very little money. ZZP do a single pass for 4hundred dollars you could not duplicate and sell for that even if you charged nothing for your time. So dont be talking about outrageous prices. BTW Flatgod's old man is a very talented machinist with a machine shop, and he would not make you one even for ZZP's price. For his son? Sky is the limit.

You are totally out of line talking about OUTRAGEOUS vendor PRICES because you dont have a clue.

 

I have a clue. My best friend owns a machine shop. And im going to be the one making these. So Qwik, before you **** me off and start ******* with My/OUR plans GTFO of here. The dual passes ive made have been amazing and held up great. Beautiful welds, all pressure tested, and they look GOOD. Oh and about the single pass set up. Ive got a single pass in my apartment. And from testing the flow with the stock IC pump, it flows TONS more than a dual pass. And it didnt cost me 400 ******* dollars to make. So get the ***** out of your ass, before you try to talk out of it.

 

I don't have a clue? Lets see vendors charge roughly 255 for a dual pass end plate if you don't send in a stock one, to me that is outrageous. A stock end plate costs no more then 80 bucks, to turn it into a dual pass costs roughly 20. That is over a 100% mark up over cost. As for italian joe I didn't realize he was already offering dual passes to us, obviously if he is doing it and making money vendors are over charging.

As for flatgod not making one I actually talked to him about a week ago before zzp posted there setup and he said that he could get it done for LESS then zzp's kit, however I will not mention the price.

I am also 99.98% sure I could get it done just as well and cheaper then zzp as my friend and I have friends/family members that work in shops and would do it fairly cheap. These are also very well known people who have been in business for 20+ years and are very knowledgeable so a little welding/cutting won't be to difficult.

I never said that zzp's price was outrageous on the single pass, however I could produce them for AT LEAST 100 bucks less, but in my opinion the dual pass end plate prices are outrageous.

 

and is Italian joe the guy who just drills and taps them? INTO CAST ALUMINIUM. RETARDED at the least.

 

Thread Failure in 3...2...wait, it's already failed. I need a time machine to go back and start the countdouwn. Can i have a re-do guys?

 

:slowclap:

 

Do share your methods....or if you can do it make a few become a vendor sell them nd make a profit....if you know how to do all this cheaply and efficiently then why do you need advice on fittings??? The easy part...

 

ZZP:
This is a genuine GM Racing 2 pass intercooler kit GM part# 88958721. Brand new, never used, complete kit as it comes from GM.No core charge, but we will give you $100 in store credit for your stock unit.
Here are the parts that are included:
GM IC end plate
12584355 Seal
12584333 Seal
10235669 Nipple
Instruction sheet
nett: 159.99

CED: $236.52 AS ABOVE

The OTTP dual pass endplate kit is 104.99

whats your price?
BTW the entire Ecotec engine is a cast alumium bunch of parts drilled and tapped many different places and ways. What is wrong with ItalianJoe's dual pass exactly?

VENDORS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF???? - PRICE RANGE? 105.00-236.00
the least expensive has no seals...you get what you pay for...

UGH

 

where is italinjoe? is it a website a member?????

 

omg what a bunch of douches... if the kid wants to try to make cheaper parts, then let him. if they fail, laugh at him.... all he did was ask a question and of course instead of just answering his question everybody has to jump him because hes looking to undercut the vendors..... just do you parts and keep slinging money to the vendors like i am....

 

O deaar

 

what douche? "Hey i need advice I am gonna do it cheaper because the vendors are outrageous." $255.00 for a dual pass.

Do the math. Not like he says.

Oh and lets help him find cheaper parts - high quality, right?

FAIL.

 

qwik - ottp's price for 105 is INCLUDING the return of your stock end plate, for people who don't want to return it have to pay 255!! Which is absolutely over priced in my opinion.

All I simply wanted to do is get some opinions on the fittings. I myself am doing NONE of the work. All there is to do is take the end plate to a shop and pay them 30 bucks to drill the hole and weld in the fitting. I can get stock end plates for about 60-70 bucks, pay 30 bucks for it and thats 100 bucks. Sell them for 150 not including the stockers, which is 100 bucks cheaper then any vendor.

I really don't see why people are getting all butt hurt.

 

Ibtl

 

I'm NOT using cheaper parts qwick, why the hell do you think I made this thread, to use GOOD high quality parts that people recommend, whats your problem man?

YOU DO YOUR MATH QWICK, 105 at ottp + 150 = 250 without the stocker.

If I was selling them with the end plate in return I could still make money on them selling them at 80 bucks each because I can get the end plates cheaper if I buy them in bulk. 50 per end plate, 30 for work = 80 bucks, sell them for 100 thats 20 bucks profit.

These are just rough numbers but ya. "Technically" I have a way to get end plates for free too sooo ya, whats the issue here guys?

 

Single passes have been made in the past using the proper materials and a well made product and it turned out to be not worth there time selling it for a reasonable price. Now zzp comes out with a cheaper priced version at $400 they found someway to keep the costs down a bit I'd bet they dont make alot on these. Those are two quality places that I know of that have made them who each have alot of experience with these cars now you have YZrider who I've never seen any decent posts out of his "buddy" and zach are going to somehow make em cheaper? if true sounds sketch

 

There won't be any lock here because I am not selling anything. All I simply wanted to know was what fittings people thought were GOOD/SOLID/RELIABLE fittings to use for dual pass end plates.

What is the issue here guys?

Just because I can have a shop make them for cheaper then vendors are selling them for doesn't mean I should get bashed. It just means that vendors should drop there prices on that specific item and not get 100% mark up.

Ottp / zzp's prices without sending in a stock end plate *which some people like to keep* is pretty high. End plates do NOT go for 150 dollars, but yet vendors charge that for a core charge, why? They are worth 60-80 bucks.

 

huh? my single pass flows well.We made it in 2004. You telling me they work? Imagine that. I dont care what it cost you to make, at 400 bucks you are lucky to pay for postage. Oh and the cores?....well good luck with that. They are not made anymore. probably a good thing. I applaud your plans. Its bin done.

Just dont **** on the vendors ;you dont know jack **** about business .

 

Wow I say go for it dude. I think if someone wants to make parts for cheap and sell them for cheap to other cobalt owners, that person is doing us a favor. All the guy is trying to do is ask a simple question to get an opinion and that is it. Its not the parts you have, its how stupid you are to pay for the expensive stuff, when something that is cheaper is the same or better quality.

Some people just need to stop talking **** and being douchebags about things.

 

The single pass setup is something we are going to TRY. If it works out then great and we will let the community know our results, if not then we aren't out much. As for the dual passes I KNOW for a fact we can get it done cheap and profit off them.

As for everyone here bashing me/yzrider for wanting to try to design things ourselves cheaper then vendors shame on you guys. It's that kind of thinking that slows down our market. More people need to do more things themselves and come up with more ideas to better our market. If we ONLY rely on vendors to produce products we as a community fail.

I am not "shitting" on the vendors at all. I applaud the vendors all the time and have spent THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of dollars between multiple vendors and will continue to do so because I SUPPORT our vendors.

HOWEVER with that being said I still think the core charge of 150 for an end plate is to high so there for I will try to help the community out by dropping that price myself.

 

Wow.

I've been offering endplates for about three years. Honestly, there isn't money to be made doing it. That's why vendors charge what they do, because doing them for $100 is breaking even. I price them cheap because I like to help people, i'm retarded I guess. I had to come up with a design for mine, as the only option at the time was GM's $300 endplate. Now that everyone knows better in the community, I only make them on request for people and don't get too excited about it.

As far as the comments about my plates being poor quality or inferior, it's a lot easier to have a problem while welding on that little piece of cast material than drilling it. Out of the maybe 50 pieces i've done for others, I've had absolutely ZERO problems or complaints. And I've ALWAYS been the cheapest, and still am. I help people with deals and special accomodations, I've done brackets, option B kits, supplied hoses/clamps/fittings, whatever people needed. I've coached people over the phone during install as to how to align cores and route hoses.

Zach, I know you are an established member here and I mean no disrespect to you or any others who have actually been a productive member of this community. To all the others who think it's cool to **** on the people who had to figure this out by themselves, go **** yourselves. You are the ones too ignorant to understand the asset you have in Quik and members like him, and due to the absurdity of the content that makes up this forum recently, all people like him are either not here or just not interested anymore.