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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Dan's Blown Motor

Well that's what I found in the oil pan

Piston #2 had a catastrophic failure. Im guessing it started when the bearing spun, then it starved of oil, then failed, then the rod slapped around and when the cap let go the crank grabbed the rod end and mashed it thru the block.

You can see the neutral shaft is scarred. Also the crank and bedplate are all scratched up. In the last pic you can see where the force actually cracked the bed plate. I think the pistons might be ok...at the worst may need a new #2. Neutrals might be able to repolish and be fine. But the block is toast.

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Ouch...
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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I hope you get it all together better than before, that's pretty ugly though.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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ouch thats killer man .. just a reason to go full built
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Damn dude, that sucks
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
ouch thats killer man .. just a reason to go full built
The only thing that wasnt forged in there was the rods. But even forged rods cant stand a failed rod bearing for a long time...

Notice the neutral balance shafts and the diamond pistons lol
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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All he heard was BANGGGGGG
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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time to buy the 1000hp ecotec build book lol
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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hmm....i hear this soft beautiful voice saying "8.8 compression pistons, port and polish head, garret turbo, build me dan....build me" lol good luck man
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
hmm....i hear this soft beautiful voice saying "8.8 compression pistons, port and polish head, garret turbo, build me dan....build me" lol good luck man

LOL it had diamond 9.5:1 forged and dual coated, holset turbo...only thing was no PnP, and no forged rods
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Why no forged rods on a setup like that?
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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"Turbos are easier on motors than blower. I bet the stock piston could handle more power on a turbo" Quoted from many turbo fan boys. LMAO!!!!! I knew it was gonna blow, I knew it wasn't gonna be a piston too. I didn't want to say it was gonna be a rod or something really bad, but look what a turbo got ya

Blower = Blown ring land - $700 and some hours of work gets you back on the road
Turbo = Destroyed block and internals - Many thousands of dollars and hours and hours of work and labor until its back together
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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damn i didn't see them .. the pics are HUGE lol and i have the browser small at work
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
"Turbos are easier on motors than blower. I bet the stock piston could handle more power on a turbo" Quoted from many turbo fan boys. LMAO!!!!! I knew it was gonna blow, I knew it wasn't gonna be a piston too. I didn't want to say it was gonna be a rod or something really bad, but look what a turbo got ya

Blower = Blown ring land - $700 and some hours of work gets you back on the road
Turbo = Destroyed block and internals - Many thousands of dollars and hours and hours of work and labor until its back together
um. yea. it would have gone with the blower, with a turbo, or n/a. time is the only thing that will tell how long said rod will survive.

when a rod bearing gives. it most likely seizes on the rod. rips the rod in half, or finds the weakest point and proceeds to put the bottom end on puree. destruction of anything and everything around said rod will happen in a milliseconds.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
"Turbos are easier on motors than blower. I bet the stock piston could handle more power on a turbo" Quoted from many turbo fan boys. LMAO!!!!! I knew it was gonna blow, I knew it wasn't gonna be a piston too. I didn't want to say it was gonna be a rod or something really bad, but look what a turbo got ya

Blower = Blown ring land - $700 and some hours of work gets you back on the road
Turbo = Destroyed block and internals - Many thousands of dollars and hours and hours of work and labor until its back together
You do know your a dueche bag and nobody likes you right. I swear your like this kid behind me in my class right now talking about how fast his camry is and how he's gonna put a turbo on it and beat everything. Your an idiot, your car is slow and keep your derogatory comments to yourself. If anyone needs a half assed blower porting we'll pm you otherwise stfu and leave people that are trying new and better things to better the community, like me and dan, the hell alone.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
"Turbos are easier on motors than blower. I bet the stock piston could handle more power on a turbo" Quoted from many turbo fan boys. LMAO!!!!! I knew it was gonna blow, I knew it wasn't gonna be a piston too. I didn't want to say it was gonna be a rod or something really bad, but look what a turbo got ya

Blower = Blown ring land - $700 and some hours of work gets you back on the road
Turbo = Destroyed block and internals - Many thousands of dollars and hours and hours of work and labor until its back together
LOL your joking right?

It blew up cause the rod bearing failed...that can happen reguardless of its mode of aspiration. It was most likely something we f'ed up when reassembling it.

Rods are forged from factory so there was no real reason to change em out...tho if I do it again ill do aftermarket forged rods just because most likely.

Once again turbo is not the reason for this failure...quit being a s/c fanboi. IIRC your motor is STILL in pieces.

Also my stock internals were fine on both blower AND turbo AND in mint shape when I removed them from the block...I rebuilt the motor cause my timing chain tensioner was never extended from the factory and I was in there anyway so just forge it.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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damn sucks man
that looks pretty damn bad right there. If you can't find a block I do have a spare motor I was going to build up to hold you over. I could always just rebuild the motor I have in the car now, unless I have nice catastrophic failure also.
and blown..... go suck off an s/c man. Seriously get over yourself. BTW when was the last time your car was running.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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great work with what you have done with your redline, your one of the few around here not scared to mod it and if something breaks, you make it stronger. When you mod, things will break, esp the more you mod. From the vids i saw your car sounded great.

good luck with the new build
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
"Turbos are easier on motors than blower. I bet the stock piston could handle more power on a turbo" Quoted from many turbo fan boys. LMAO!!!!! I knew it was gonna blow, I knew it wasn't gonna be a piston too. I didn't want to say it was gonna be a rod or something really bad, but look what a turbo got ya

Blower = Blown ring land - $700 and some hours of work gets you back on the road
Turbo = Destroyed block and internals - Many thousands of dollars and hours and hours of work and labor until its back together
wow did I just read you right? Same destruction would have happened eventually. regardless what kind of forced induction.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Sorry to hear about the carnage man.

Don't listen to the douchebags

Hope to see her up and running again soon
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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wow did I just read you right? Same destruction would have happened eventually. regardless what kind of forced induction.
x2, does not matter WHAT type of forced induction. Whats blown4's reasoning that turbos are easier? just b.c of heat? please give me a better reason
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Man that's toasted! It's all part of the game bro. Welcome to the blown motor club. I've killed three total to date personally! I guess I like boost too much.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
"Turbos are easier on motors than blower. I bet the stock piston could handle more power on a turbo" Quoted from many turbo fan boys. LMAO!!!!! I knew it was gonna blow, I knew it wasn't gonna be a piston too. I didn't want to say it was gonna be a rod or something really bad, but look what a turbo got ya

Blower = Blown ring land - $700 and some hours of work gets you back on the road
Turbo = Destroyed block and internals - Many thousands of dollars and hours and hours of work and labor until its back together
I seriously hope this is a joke. I'll refrain from flaming on assumption you're kidding.

Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
damn sucks man
that looks pretty damn bad right there. If you can't find a block I do have a spare motor I was going to build up to hold you over. I could always just rebuild the motor I have in the car now, unless I have nice catastrophic failure also.
and blown..... go suck off an s/c man. Seriously get over yourself. BTW when was the last time your car was running.
Heh be careful on that offer, I think this might be the best solution right now for a replacement bottom end.

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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lol I'm contemplating that offer lol. But he's helped me out with some issues, so just returning the favor.
I should have my forged rods soon, and pistons I have, and neutral balance shafts, and arp main and head studs, so hopefully I"ll just tear into this motor shortly before it too goes kaboom. 22psi is fun though... 25 is better
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