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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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ditching the laminovas

Okay can someone give me one good reason why we cant just remove the laminovas and run water + meth cooling exclusively? Everyone says that they are the bottle neck so whats the problem with just using a good boost actuated water + meth kit?
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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You could i would think but if your water/meth runs out or fails you are in trouble.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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do you plan on spraying whenever your in boost? what he said ^^
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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I would think heat yould only be an issue under high boost. Maybe start the spray at 5-8 psi? This is just speculation that I thought would make a good conversation.

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You could i would think but if your water/meth runs out or fails you are in trouble.
The guys with water/meth say the tank takes forever to empty the tank.

I know that Snow Performance offers larger tanks.

I was hopeing to get the attention of witt and area and some of the other technical gods

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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what if its a crazy heat wave during summer and ur iat's are 115 not to mention what ur iat2s are....ur gonna flood the engine with meth?!
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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what if its a crazy heat wave during summer and ur iat's are 115 not to mention what ur iat2s are....ur gonna flood the engine with meth?!

Yes but heat isnt an issue untill your trying to make power (i.e. boost), correct? so wouldnt having the spray start once you begin making substantial boost work?

IDK if this will work or not. Im just throwing the idea out there. Im pretty sure it wasnt discussed on here yet.

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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heat is always a problem..its got to the point to where people are maxing there cars with a supercharger...if ur looking for crazy power get a turbo...if not ur looking at 350 max..

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Yes but heat isnt an issue untill your trying to make power (i.e. boost), correct? so wouldnt having the spray start once you begin making substantial boost work?

IDK if this will work or not. Im just throwing the idea out there. Im pretty sure it wasnt discussed on here yet.
it was discussed...just not in the open...myself witt and area47 and few others have bounced this around and just dont feel its the best route..theres other things u can do..the boost in the manifold is causing the problems..u wanna look to make more power at a lower boost level imo

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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I am no technical whiz. I was just trying to see if anyone else has thought of this.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:50 AM
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i'd say port the supercharger to lower ur boost levels...get a ported manifold from ott performance..ur on a stage 2 so ur boost levels will be around 14 after a port...get some meth...lean it out some get real aggressive on the tune and u can be sitting pretty right around 300...get some head work and u'll be good...other than that turbo dude...its said to say because i always wanted to keep my supercharged car supercharged...but turbo is the way to go IMO
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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My balt is long gone.

Im building an integra. I just wanted to try and gather some info for other users.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:53 AM
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ahh then u want to add me to aim...honda guru i am haha...building a civic my cobalt is in my garage in pieces waiting to be dragged out and dumped off a cliff
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:56 AM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/lounge-42/my-balt-totaled-104028/ Just hit a deer at 100 plus. It does wonders.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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that'll buff out haha.....if u need anything on hondas let me know..i have friends across the ocean
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 02:42 AM
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heat is a huge problem...if i start my car up and its at 70* C, itll idle ridiculously...which happens if i drive somewhere, shut off the car, relax for 10-20 mins and start the car again...


without the laminovas, my iat's would not drop as quickly back to normal....meth isnt the end all for cooling...just another notch
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 02:48 AM
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yea me and him been talking on aim..i also forgot to mention the vacuum..it'll crush the check valve for the meth tank..hydrolock ftl
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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just trying to think in an alternative way.

you guys are too smart for me lol

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 03:00 AM
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another way to do it would be to modify the intake to accept a heat exchanger instead of the laminova, like this one used by zzp in the 3800sc intercoolers

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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Anything has to flow better than the cores
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharkey
another way to do it would be to modify the intake to accept a heat exchanger instead of the laminova, like this one used by zzp in the 3800sc intercoolers

Nice compact heat exchanger. Looks like a car heater matrix...
More specs available from this?
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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try www.zzperformance.com
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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how about this kind of setup, this is a tiburon motor


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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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very similar to my lotus^


...its aftermarket of course
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc
how about this kind of setup, this is a tiburon motor




Secks.


Whats the insied of the HE look like though?
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Very nice setup! How much hp/tq that tiburon make? Thats how our intake should be.
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