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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Does ice help on the supercharger at track?

Getting a little warm now will ice in a bag on the supercharger help before i got for a 1/4 mile run, thanks everybody
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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So i have been told but on the intercooler.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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yes it wil, black06ss and myself use a bag every time we go
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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I wouldn't think it would help a stock car. I've heard of an ice canister in the intake though.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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before i make a run i put a bag on the intake pipeing and the SC...dont know if it works but thats what i'm used to doing before a run.

i'd do it...it cant hurt anything
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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of course it helps thats less hot metal the induction air has to go through
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Classic old hot rodder's trick... either on the intake or the supercharger.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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im sure you guys got a problem with not having enough cold air up there in canada huh leafy
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
im sure you guys got a problem with not having enough cold air up there in canada huh leafy

Laugh it up man

Suprisingly it's been warm for the end of march beginning of April... went cruising last night for the first time this year.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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im sure you guys got a problem with not having enough cold air up there in canada huh leafy
Well I am in Canada and I was wearing shorts & t-shirt yesterday and the flowers are blooming and the birds are singing as I walk along the beaches looking at the snow capped mountains.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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+15 today and all weekend!
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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I would be worried about the extra stress of extreme temp changes on the supercharger. Short term I bet you would get a little more power, but I bet long term it would lessen the life of the supercharger
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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I would be worried about the extra stress of extreme temp changes on the supercharger. Short term I bet you would get a little more power, but I bet long term it would lessen the life of the supercharger
i really doubt it has any effect like that. its not 100's of degrees difference its a matter of 20-30 degrees
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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guys i wasnt hating on canada, it was just a little joke
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Icing the intake can show a "marginal" gain if any . I dont ever ice mine , because typically between the drive to staging lanes, to cleaning off the tires and staging the car the car is just as hot as if you never did anything at all . Intake inlet temps and supercharger outlet temps dont lie on the aeroforce guage

After paying alot attention to my intake temps before the supercharger and after the supercharger Im gonna be doing 1 small thing that would go ALOT further that ice. Ive noticed while the car is driving , the air going into the engine stays about ambient or a degree or 2 below , but while the car sits with no air flowing over the front of the car that temp climbs up pretty qwik ...why? The hot engine bay is soaking the portion of the cold air pipe that in the engine bay . So to quell alot of that heat , Im gonna wrap the portion of the cold air pipe that in the engine bay with Cool-it reflective wrap , all the way up to the throttle body inlet . They claim it reflects away 98% of the heat , Ive used it before ...it works . Of course , to the people that wanna see that great looking intake they paid a couple hundred bux for , this idea wont work for ya . Me - I dont care , I'll take the benefit over looks .

Icing the blower in between runs , sure is gonna cool the surface . But the heat is still soaking it from the entire engine . Once u take the bag of ice off , start the car , make you way thru the pits ...your back to where you started before ya put the ice on . Ive been drag racing a long time , and I used to ice the intakes of my cars until I realized 1) icing the intake is kinda annoying and 2) I never got any measurable performance gain , the little I did get coulda been attributed to me getting the car down the track better .

....but in the end , do whatever works for ya
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Personally, although it will not hurt, I feel that you will waste your money as it will do almost nothing to your performance.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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If you were referring to the cool-it stuff Brian ....eh , your right ...maybe not . But its cheap enuff to try if your not looking for miracles and try control a intake air temp that spikes up 25-30* in some conditions .
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
If you were referring to the cool-it stuff Brian ....eh , your right ...maybe not . But its cheap enuff to try if your not looking for miracles and try control a intake air temp that spikes up 25-30* in some conditions .
A bag of ice is cheap, but as far as doing anything to really improve the trap time...

The Ice will make you look like you are very serious about the 1/4 Mile, and that will make you a Wizz with the ladies, so what the hell, Bag the Bitch 5 Min before a race..
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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guys i wasnt hating on canada, it was just a little joke
And we were grinning right back at you
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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I say dry ice on top of the IC heat exchanger and a wrap for the intake. Forget about the actual supercharger.

Get the IC coolant temp low enough and it should stay cool enough to last through the staging lanes.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
i really doubt it has any effect like that. its not 100's of degrees difference its a matter of 20-30 degrees

Ice is 32 degrees=Supercharger is definetly warmer than 62 degree. Sometimes the supercharger is too warm to touch after you have been running the car hard.

If you watched the street tuner challenge you will see the GM team icing down the supercharger during the dyno runs...


Whenever you have two peice of metal bolted together and you dramatically cool one down and the other is hot there is going to be some stress.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
yes it wil, black06ss and myself use a bag every time we go
really i never knew that thanks for the info...
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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thanks for all the info this helped a lot
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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So, what did you decide?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Why don'ty u do what STi and other scooby owners do. Route a water sprayer kit to the heat exchanger/intercooler. I'm gona do it on mine. Also I hear it does help a lil...obviously not drastic changes but I hear in traffic and hot ass days it'll help with the heatsoak.
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