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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Why don'ty u do what STi and other scooby owners do. Route a water sprayer kit to the heat exchanger/intercooler. I'm gona do it on mine. Also I hear it does help a lil...obviously not drastic changes but I hear in traffic and hot ass days it'll help with the heatsoak.

The way the intercooler works on this car will not accept that.

It's a Water to Air cooler not an Air to Air FMIC.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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The way the intercooler works on this car will not accept that.

It's a Water to Air cooler not an Air to Air FMIC.
What Brian said. you'd be using water to cool down metal with water in it.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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So, what did you decide?
brought a big bad of ice and put it on intake pipe and for a little time on the supercharger
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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brought a big bad of ice and put it on intake pipe and for a little time on the supercharger

Money..

Like I said, it can't possibly hurt...
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
The way the intercooler works on this car will not accept that.

It's a Water to Air cooler not an Air to Air FMIC.
It would work, but not nearly as efficient, and it would be a pain in the a$$ to set up since we have the AC condesor in front of the heat exchanger.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
So i have been told but on the intercooler.
how would you attempt to place it on our intercooler when its wedged between the supercharger and head in a watercooler setup?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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how would you attempt to place it on our intercooler when its wedged between the supercharger and head in a watercooler setup?
It will work much better if you get the coolant cooler, rather than the actual IC. If the coolant is warmer than the IC it will actually warm it back up. Keep the coolant ice cold, and it will cool the IC the same. Not to mention it would take much longer to warm all the coolant back up than just the metal on the IC. That's why I say dry ice on the heat exchanger.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
It will work much better if you get the coolant cooler, rather than the actual IC. If the coolant is warmer than the IC it will actually warm it back up. Keep the coolant ice cold, and it will cool the IC the same. Not to mention it would take much longer to warm all the coolant back up than just the metal on the IC. That's why I say dry ice on the heat exchanger.
Exactly.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Well I am in Canada and I was wearing shorts & t-shirt yesterday and the flowers are blooming and the birds are singing as I walk along the beaches looking at the snow capped mountains.
Damb you BC people! We still have snow in places in Edmonton! No freaking birds or blooming flowers here yet. My SS is still on steelies!

Anyways....

How do you guys prevent the bag from slipping and falling onto a hot engine component? Do you tape it down or something?

Sorry if thats a stupid question, but I am curious?
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Anything that can help to cool the intake air will help. If you cool your supercharger, you'll cool the air it pumps.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by zinner
Ice is 32 degrees=Supercharger is definetly warmer than 62 degree. Sometimes the supercharger is too warm to touch after you have been running the car hard.

If you watched the street tuner challenge you will see the GM team icing down the supercharger during the dyno runs...


Whenever you have two peice of metal bolted together and you dramatically cool one down and the other is hot there is going to be some stress.
of course the supercharger is hotter than 62 degrees, but think about it man. the ice is not going to chill the blower to 32 degrees, not unless you leave it on there for a long ass time, AND the ambient temperature outside is 32 degrees. the ice and the blower are trying to both become ambient so you are just trying to cool it down faster and if it is extremely hot outiside trying to cool it off for a period of time, it would be nearly impossible to chill the blower to 32 degrees when it is say 70 outside for example. get what im saying?
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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one of black06ss's ideas is to rig a peive of aluminum mesh so that it will sit write where the intake sucks in the air and have the mesh support a small block of dry ice so that the intake charge is cooled
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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I would keep the ice in the cooler...
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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Damb you BC people! We still have snow in places in Edmonton! No freaking birds or blooming flowers here yet. My SS is still on steelies!

Anyways....

How do you guys prevent the bag from slipping and falling onto a hot engine component? Do you tape it down or something?

Sorry if thats a stupid question, but I am curious?
Then you have it easy, you don't even have to buy a bag of ice. Just shovel it off your drive way and dump it on top of the supercharger.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
one of black06ss's ideas is to rig a peive of aluminum mesh so that it will sit write where the intake sucks in the air and have the mesh support a small block of dry ice so that the intake charge is cooled

Ummm, Thats really dumb because the CO2 would then get injested instead of air and you would end up with "Reverse Nitros Injection".
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
It would work, but not nearly as efficient, and it would be a pain in the a$$ to set up since we have the AC condesor in front of the heat exchanger.

Yeah, A/C... Theres Performance...
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by STi_WRX02
Why don'ty u do what STi and other scooby owners do. Route a water sprayer kit to the heat exchanger/intercooler. I'm gona do it on mine. Also I hear it does help a lil...obviously not drastic changes but I hear in traffic and hot ass days it'll help with the heatsoak.
Yeah and be an ass by dripping water all over the track and mess stuff up for everyone else.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Yeah and be an ass by dripping water all over the track and mess stuff up for everyone else.
dude thats why you spray it before you get to the prestage area. you know... where the water box is! and im having a little clue saying you are taking that comment right out of car and driver man regarding the sti and evo comparison...
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Persoanlly the only thing "ice" is usually good for is getting water on the track! It's almost as bad as retards that us the burnout box with street tires!! It's not allowed at my local track and if you're caught you are gone!! Plus, a mod mentoined the expanation and contaction. Is it really worth the possible stresses that will caused with frequent use?
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Persoanlly the only thing "ice" is usually good for is getting water on the track! It's almost as bad as retards that us the burnout box with street tires!! It's not allowed at my local track and if you're caught you are gone!! Plus, a mod mentoined the expanation and contaction. Is it really worth the possible stresses that will caused with frequent use?
you dont ice it on the track you ice it in your "pit" area
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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So you don't think melted ice can make it to the track? Trust me it can!!
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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So i don't think melted ice can make it to the track? Trust me it can't!!
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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dont waiste your ice.. keep it in the cooler for the beer.. i have more then enough strip passes and all in all your driving ability has more to do with your time then the ice.. the ice is more of a "mental" thing
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 03:11 AM
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At this link below, click on the "Engineering" tab just under the pic of the truck. It desribes how they got an extra 50 transient hp for 30-45 seconds, just by cooling the intercooler liquid to ~30 degrees F.

http://www.svt.ford.com/conceptLabLightning.asp

And use dry ice. It works much faster and doesn't melt, it evaporates.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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At this link below, click on the "Engineering" tab just under the pic of the truck. It desribes how they got an extra 50 transient hp for 30-45 seconds, just by cooling the intercooler liquid to ~30 degrees F.

http://www.svt.ford.com/conceptLabLightning.asp

And use dry ice. It works much faster and doesn't melt, it evaporates.
nice find man
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