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Old 07-09-2010, 03:24 PM
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finally upgrading, input needed

so comes to getting the stage 2 ottp, but for some reason they don't give you a heat exchanger option anymore. and i heard the drain plug at the bottom sucks ass! lol well for the stg 2 setup what H/E should i get from zzp?

and just to look things over this is what my options are
stage 2 belt
m62 pulley system
7,000 RPM
stock torque management
cat "yes"
and i'm getting them to ship me another PCM because i can't be without a car for more than a couple of days

let me know please. i'm planning on buying everything when i get home tonight from work.
Old 07-09-2010, 04:19 PM
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Have you looked into the Trifecta GM stage 3 w/ ac enabled? I just got it, yes I am baised but as far as canned tunes go GM's Stage 3 is top notch.
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They're developing a new h/e anyways..and the ******* complaining about the drain on the bottom, are just that, *******.
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Originally Posted by Karlen89
They're developing a new h/e anyways..and the ******* complaining about the drain on the bottom, are just that, *******.
RoFl, well also on the ottp h/e you can take the drain plug out of the bottom and replace it with a 1/4 inch NPT plug, which is cheap and at lowe's, or home depot. I wouldnt always believe what you hear neither ottp has very good stage setup's I'd do a little investigating, and get more info before you assume.. Good luck..
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Originally Posted by Sergio
Have you looked into the Trifecta GM stage 3 w/ ac enabled? I just got it, yes I am baised but as far as canned tunes go GM's Stage 3 is top notch.
yea but does it come with everything? like the stage kits do? i thought it was just a tune. and i'm planning on getting a custom tune later in the year.

i'm thinking zzp's stage 3 heat exchanger. and i heard about the plug thing.
Old 07-09-2010, 05:23 PM
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i have zzp stage 3 and have had no problems.
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Get rid of the torque management, it's not needed. The only crappy thing about getting a new PCM is now you're going to have to drive to GM to get it relearned. Know anyone with HP tuners that can reflash you're car? And OTTP doesnt have the heat exchanger option because they are out
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Yep loose the management, and bump the redline to 7200. Go with the ZZP STG 3 HE.
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Originally Posted by MrSlickSter06SS
RoFl, well also on the ottp h/e you can take the drain plug out of the bottom and replace it with a 1/4 inch NPT plug, which is cheap and at lowe's, or home depot. I wouldnt always believe what you hear neither ottp has very good stage setup's I'd do a little investigating, and get more info before you assume.. Good luck..
I wasn't complaining...I've got the bottom drain one.
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alright 7200 and torque off. sounds good.
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Get rid of the torque management, it's not needed. The only crappy thing about getting a new PCM is now you're going to have to drive to GM to get it relearned. Know anyone with HP tuners that can reflash you're car? And OTTP doesnt have the heat exchanger option because they are out
I say wait for them to restock then get the stage 2 i just had stage 2 from ottp about 2 weeks ago right before they ran out. they do a great job your car becomes a whole new car when they are done. Just keep it all ottp let them hook it up
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i decided to be impatient, i got the stage 2 with the zzp stage 3 Heat exchanger. i heard it was better, probably because it's the biggest lol

so does anyone have a AEM wideband AFR for sale?
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Originally Posted by Traviper
i decided to be impatient, i got the stage 2 with the zzp stage 3 Heat exchanger. i heard it was better, probably because it's the biggest lol

so does anyone have a AEM wideband AFR for sale?
you have a PM
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Originally Posted by colinderr
I say wait for them to restock then get the stage 2 i just had stage 2 from ottp about 2 weeks ago right before they ran out. they do a great job your car becomes a whole new car when they are done. Just keep it all ottp let them hook it up
X2. Love my OTTP stage 2
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
X2. Love my OTTP stage 2
oh don't get me wrong, i got the ottp kit. i just couldn't wait for them to restock the H/E, so i got the stage 3 zzp, it's bigger and lighter anyways lol
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You Sir Will Love The OTTP Stage 2 I Juss Got Mine Installed Today With A Dual Pass W/Option B & It Runs Flawlessly ! I Also Got The ZZP Stage 3 H/E Ooh btw enjoy realligning ur headlight housing afterwards coz the heatexchanger tends to push the bumper a little bit forward, so juss push the headlights a little to the front and u'll be fine
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Originally Posted by Traviper
oh don't get me wrong, i got the ottp kit. i just couldn't wait for them to restock the H/E, so i got the stage 3 zzp, it's bigger and lighter anyways lol
Ohhhh ok. Well thats good. I'm in the same boat as you. Guess i'm goin ZZP cause OTTP is out of stock on heat exchangers once again. Just an FYI. Get a wideband and get it tuned. The canned tune is suuuuper rich
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yea i just bought a AEM UEGO from yelloeye.

please dear god don't F*CK me yelloeye
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
Ohhhh ok. Well thats good. I'm in the same boat as you. Guess i'm goin ZZP cause OTTP is out of stock on heat exchangers once again. Just an FYI. Get a wideband and get it tuned. The canned tune is suuuuper rich
ummmm how rich is urs mine is at 11.8 @ WOT i think my previous GMS2 Tune was at 10.5 at WOT now that's rich lol
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ummmm how rich is urs mine is at 11.8 @ WOT i think my previous GMS2 Tune was at 10.5 at WOT now that's rich lol
My autometer cobalt wideband goes 10 to 16. At wide open throttle i was buried out to 10... So it's probalby even richer than that. NOW THATS RICH!!! I had code PO172 (fuel trim too rich) come up all the time
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is is a canned tune, so it all depends on the car, everyone is different. i hope mine isn't that rich lol
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yea i just bought a AEM UEGO from yelloeye.

please dear god don't F*CK me yelloeye
Lol I've been here forever and have no intention of tarnishing my name. I'll get it out today and have a tracking number for you by this afternoon at the latest.
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Originally Posted by Bluelightning
My autometer cobalt wideband goes 10 to 16. At wide open throttle i was buried out to 10... So it's probalby even richer than that. NOW THATS RICH!!! I had code PO172 (fuel trim too rich) come up all the time
yeah mine is that rich too.
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Originally Posted by Traviper
i decided to be impatient, i got the stage 2 with the zzp stage 3 Heat exchanger. i heard it was better, probably because it's the biggest lol

so does anyone have a AEM wideband AFR for sale?
Actually OTTP's 4th gen Heat Exchanger is larger than ZZP's S3 Heat Exchanger. It has a slightly thicker core.

Also, it only weighs 2lbs more than the ZZP S3.

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Originally Posted by Traviper
is is a canned tune, so it all depends on the car, everyone is different. i hope mine isn't that rich lol
No a canned tune is the same tune OTTP gives for every car. Yours will be the same


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