Im talking about after they are put in a heavy piece of rotating equipment. You think SAE can rate an oil after it has been in a 2 liter engine for 5,000 miles? Sure they do stress tests for long period of time, but nothing crazy. When is the last time you heard of someone having something go wrong on a newer vehicle because of the oil in it. I havent heard anything on this site at all about anything oil related. Lets put it in a 6,000 HP pump motor and let it go for 600 MILLION revolutions and then test it. Ill post some **** up tomorrow for sure. Again this is just my opinion.

Hm I wonder if its because the president of API is 30% shareholder in Amsoil. Nah, couldnt be.

 

Amsoil tested various oil and in their own testing showed Mobil 1 Extended Performance to be excellent oil! See this link. http://www.c66racing-synthetics.com/...etest11-05.htm

 

Compare!

Unfortunately, Amsoil wasn't in the test in the above link... but it's results have been shown to be very similar to Royal Purple.

 

AMSOIL didnt do that test. I can find those same results on 20 different websites, hold on Ill list em.

You need to go to the people that actually do this for a living, Lewis for example needs to post results from his tests including these oils and you need to look at SAE and API results.

http://bestsyntheticoil.com/dealers/...-testing.shtml
http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-air-f...-IIIF-test.htm
http://bestsyntheticoil.com/amsoil/g1971.pdf
http://www.syntheticsbestoil.com/compare_oils.htm
http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/Amsoil_compared.htm
http://www.syntheticoilnlubes.com/co...oil_tests.html

I could keep going but they are all the same. Thats not a solid test its from an independent group.

Im telling you go to the source, API or SAE, thats the info that is done with the correct testing and under the correct conditions.

Thats very true, in recent months it was proven to excel in certain aspects but the the reason for that was not in the AMSOIL quality going up but some have said royal purple quality has gone down. Again I am just taknig that from SAE journals and articles, which everything can be found on the web.

This is not my word this is tride and true fact from the two most reputable sources in Automobiles and oils

 

How about giving us the links to the SAE and API tests that you refer to? My own involvement in engine testing at General Motors using Mobil 1 showed it to be an excellent lubricant.

 

have you done any testing at GM with the other oils.

www.sae.org and www.api.org

you can search for all the info your good heart desires.

sign up for new letters and buy articles and journals, read up!

its a good lubricant but for performance engines under high stress its proven to be not the best for the job.

royal purple, amsoil and enos arent just using in racing because people like the names or the color of the oil. Its because they have proven to out last and out perform the other oils out there, including MOBIL1.

again its just another case of everyone knowing more. I gave you the info, these arent my words, ive gave you the websites, do the research if you choose. Or wait for Lewis to do this testing he does everyday to show the same results youll find anywhere. All synthetics arent the same and MOBIL 1 is not the best.

Later people

 

thats because walmart pays mobil to make their oil for them, and just repackages it.

there was a thread all about this months ago.

 

i had said that, were you able to find the link, i couldnt?

 

Im telling you go to the source, API or SAE, thats the info that is done with the correct testing and under the correct conditions.


I was under the assumption that you were refering to specific oil tests by the API that also listed the results of the tests for various brands of engine oil. I am aware of how lubricants are tested. Do you have the specific link to these tests you speak of? Reading about how oils are tested doesn't support any conclusion about quality.

 

Im not telling you to read about how oils are tested(Im happy you know how they are, as do I) Im telling you to do the research yourself. Im done fighting, Ive given info. I have a business to run and I need to stop getting caught up in arguement on this site with people that have no urge to learn or listen they just want to oppose.

You have the websites all you need to do is search, just a little bit too, I could pull up 2 tests right now, so you can do the same

Also if you were at GM with the title of engineering you should be a member of SAE and have access to the same info I do, so you should use that and work on this all yourself.

 

TRUTH!

 

Also just another tid bit I was able to pull out quick before I left.

Ed Hackett, I think that is how you speel it, is a professor who did his own motor oil testing. I know he did a paper in 1999, that was with the old style AMSOIL, but he has done them recently because they have been featured by SAE. So if you work on finding them you will have even more info

 

Who's fighting? Your just being asked for information that you refer to but seem unable or unwilling to supply. Back up your comments with the documented facts that you referance. Most on this forum are not members of SAE. If you can so easily post the info for them, do so and stop dancing around the subject. You seem to have lots of time to voice your opinion without documentation. Where are the links? Now get back to running your business.

 

You are fighting, if you want to see the stuff, go find it. Im sick of having to proove myself. If given you the tools now use them. I do have time, but I should be working. My customers would like thier parts so between the time I program the machine and wait for a part to finish I come on here. Gonna stop that though.

Your being lazy, you can easily access the info, I also gave you another outside source which is very easy to find.

Also you never answered my question, did you ever test any of the other oils in question while working at GM

 

Well. I guess all the inquiring minds on this forum will just have to take this guys word for what he says because he can't back up what he says with the documentaion he refers to! If you can't find it you are just lazy! But wait, if you belong to SAE you can get all the papers you want! Don't belong to SAE, well just listen to Boossted 06, he SOUNDS like he might know what he is talking about!!!

In answer to your question Boossted 06, my involvement was with Mobil oils, regular petroleum and synthetic since these were the oils used as factory fill.

 

Here's my 2 cents...

Anybody heard of Elliott Company? I work for them. They are a large turbomachinery company. They do a lot of work for petrochemical (oil pumping), electrical generating, and ethylene (plastics) processing equipment worldwide as well as custom lubrication systems. They primarily make turbines and compressors. I work at the corp headquarters in Jeannette, PA as a Kronos Systems Analyst (Computer Database Work). I am in charge of the time and attendence system (Kronos) for all of the guys in our shop, soo I spend a decent ammount of time in the plant. They use a lot of Mobile1 and Castrol oil for the rotating equipment and also for all of the machines and tooling...

Hell maybe they just use this oil because it's cheap, I dunno. Computers are my specialty not petro-analysis. If Mobile1 is good enough for 100,000 HP turbomachinery then I think it's good enough for a sub 300 HP engine... Some of our turbines have been running for 70+ years nonstop and the rotors are still balanced within 1/2 of a millimeter (I've seen this in person). Also keep in mind that most of the rotors spin over 10,000 rpms and some do a constant 36,000 rpm or soo...

That's just my take on it, take it for what it's worth...

 

thats why i open a new tread i could not find the link either.