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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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i pay 4080 a year for full coverage on both my cobalt and my Z06. But i also live in Nassua County N.Y. one of the most expensive places in the world
The cobalt is a really great car and since getting it almost a year ago i totally gained respect for 4 bangers. It's very quick stock and is a stage kit away from being very fast. I also average 24 mpg city. All around great car.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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It seems like a lot of former mustang guys have come over to the balts. And trust me, unless the "v8 guys" you hang out with have some decently modded cars, you'll hang right with them. I dunno if I have a factory freak balt or just have raced some shitty drivers, but every stock new-edge Mustang GT I've come up against was a drivers' race, and I've won most of them, even from a dig (and from a roll, I'd blow them out of the water). The 'balt straight up out-pulls a stock Mustang GT (S-197's excluded), and it's a hell of a lot more comfortable, too.
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cool Bolt
How much is the insurance for you guys? I'm in California, I looked up a few basic rates and I see about 1600 for a year. I know my Mustang was 1600 for 6 months, so it's definately a better cost. What about gas? 91 needed? I know it's a 13 gallon tank, what is that, 250 miles average? I need nitty gritty details guys. Sell this car to me.
Cool Bolt - be careful with your purchase -

If your going to get a cobalt you better get the G85 package. if you dont then you will be so disappointed. Get Stage 2 put in the deal but install to go in after break in period.

I think your going to be dissappointed with the car either way. Why? its not the handling, its not the power (as long as you have stage 2). It is because it is FWD vs. RWD. Be prepared for a difference - no difting, shitty hook up from the line as you dont have the advantage of weight transfer, the sound will never be a V-8, you will get teased cause it is a cobalt - not much respect from people that this is a performer.

IMO......
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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yeah snnipes is right. You may not get respect from the V8 crowd. My friends one with a 98 T/A and another with 05 GT were just like eh when i got the car even though from a roll it's right there with both of them
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool Bolt
How much is the insurance for you guys? I'm in California, I looked up a few basic rates and I see about 1600 for a year. I know my Mustang was 1600 for 6 months, so it's definately a better cost. What about gas? 91 needed? I know it's a 13 gallon tank, what is that, 250 miles average? I need nitty gritty details guys. Sell this car to me.
Unfortunately what we pay for insurance means just about jack squat to you, because of the tremendous number of variables involved. Insurance is a very personalized business. But you have a quote to compare with what you're paying now for your Mustang, so that's probably about as much as you need to know about insurance. On my first tank of gas, I made 300 miles and filled up 11 gallons, so I got about 27mpg. I think the manual allows you to use 87 octane if you are not planning on driving in a spirited fashion, but I wouldn't put anything less than 91 in personally. The car itself is a joy to drive around. It's comfortable enough to be a good long distance cruiser, has plenty of get-up-and-go for the space between stoplights, and what really impressed me - an extremely taut suspension and stiff chassis. The chassis feels like it is a single mold. Maybe I'm overly sensitive to that kind of thing because I was coming from my 4th gen Camaro, but it was a big deal to me.

If all that doesn't sell you the car, toss me a PM and I'll be happy to discuss it at even more ridiculous lengths.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SSSlow
It seems like a lot of former mustang guys have come over to the balts. And trust me, unless the "v8 guys" you hang out with have some decently modded cars, you'll hang right with them.

Yet another Bold statment...you'r probably running guys that can't drive...my club's Prez. is running a bone stock 01 GT, and I mean bone stock down to the paper filter and he's turning 14.0 -14-1 all day in FL, I will guarantee you he will put a hurting from a dig on a stock cobalt...I won't even go about the camaro's (98 and up) that are turning 13.7 and faster bone stock...


to the new owner: to be fooled by the few on here that think they "hang" with V8, I betcha 50$ the V8 guys probably didn't even know they were racing... The bolt is quick, and like I said, will worry some V8 cars (Stock bolt that is)...but you aren't going to hang with "most V8", rather you'll "worry" a few V8 guys...and concidering you can "worry" a few v8 guys with a 4 banger, that ought to tell ya this lil munchkin is prety quick
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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I never thought the lil' Cobalt could keep up with a V8. In fact, I knew for fact it wouldn't be able to hang at all. Worry is about all it's going to do, unless the other driver slips a gear. My main concern is producing some qualitiy numbers like 210-250 FWHP and TQ and that's it. Make sure it handles nicely, and I can still have some fun.

I've also read the clutch is weak from the get go. Will performace mods hinder the clutch even more than what it's designed for? If that's the case, I might as well replace it as soon as I get it.
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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I'll sell you my bolt and save you a couple grand if you want...........
i've driven alot of cars in its class and a few above the balt is close to the top of all of them
handling is awesome, just the intake mod will make the car get you alot of stares
drive an evo,sti, or a 05 srt-4 they're pretty much the only thing thats more fun
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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I *think* our clutch will be ok at or below 245whp for everyday driving / autox....for drag I have no clue...I don't drag fwd cars
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EthensCobalt
I'll sell you my bolt and save you a couple grand if you want...........
i've driven alot of cars in its class and a few above the balt is close to the top of all of them
handling is awesome, just the intake mod will make the car get you alot of stares
drive an evo,sti, or a 05 srt-4 they're pretty much the only thing thats more fun
I appreciate the offer, but I'm still debating. I'll go drive one again, then ask a few more questions. If the clutch sucks, I wanna know about it.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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stock VS stock your talking? Good drivers can make all the difference, I agree.

Mustangs/Camaros are all about straight line power.....you could whip thorugh the corners but they aren't great at it.

And they weren't tuned at the nuremberg track....

Ultimatley RWD is superior but that doesn't matter if the chassis is not as good or the suspesnsion

the newer mustangs handle far far better than the previous ones. I haven't driven the ss/sc, and it probably out handles my car, but i drove the 2.4 and i feel my car has more predictable handling. I do have the pony package though, which has gt front and rear sway bars. All i know is my old mazdaspeed protege could out handle probably any fwd car on the market. That thing was bad ass in the corners for a fwd car. Until i blew a rod that is
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Oh btw... im not trying to discourage you from buying a cobalt, but fwd cars are not the place to look if you want big torque.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SSSlow
It seems like a lot of former mustang guys have come over to the balts. And trust me, unless the "v8 guys" you hang out with have some decently modded cars, you'll hang right with them. I dunno if I have a factory freak balt or just have raced some shitty drivers, but every stock new-edge Mustang GT I've come up against was a drivers' race, and I've won most of them, even from a dig (and from a roll, I'd blow them out of the water). The 'balt straight up out-pulls a stock Mustang GT (S-197's excluded), and it's a hell of a lot more comfortable, too.

please tell me you don't seriously think the balt pulls on the 05-06 gt's...you must have been racing an old lady with an automatic. stock for stock the gt is a much faster car with equal drivers. I'd say a good second in the quarter. But i will agree with you that before 05-06 it is a drivers race.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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I had a Mustang, it was cool, but I want to change from V8 to 4. I hear the import vs domestic wars are frequent on the other forums I post on. This way, I have a chance to have both sides of the arguement.

I think the Cobalt is a cool car. FWD bothers me, but still, I wanna try it. Hey, is it possible to change the drive wheels from front to back? If this car was RWD, this car would definately be a hot seller. I have no experience with drivetrains, is it possible to do that?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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with enough $$$$ and a welder anything is possible

but in short

NO you can't
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool Bolt
I had a Mustang, it was cool, but I want to change from V8 to 4. I hear the import vs domestic wars are frequent on the other forums I post on. This way, I have a chance to have both sides of the arguement.

I think the Cobalt is a cool car. FWD bothers me, but still, I wanna try it. Hey, is it possible to change the drive wheels from front to back? If this car was RWD, this car would definately be a hot seller. I have no experience with drivetrains, is it possible to do that?

I wouldn't recommend it...that would take alot of cash and time. It would also throw off the dynamics of the car and alot of suspension stuff would have to be changed along with the drivetrain stuff. It would also add a good amount of weight to the car. If you want rwd go with another car, its the easiest way, but if you can get over the fwd thing the cobalt is a great car.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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FWD is different. Traction is different, steering is different, and the general feel of the car is different. I really don't want to make a bad decision. The car looks good, and I've seen some neat body kits. Any pictures of your Cobalts?
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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FWD is different. Traction is different, steering is different, and the general feel of the car is different. I really don't want to make a bad decision. The car looks good, and I've seen some neat body kits. Any pictures of your Cobalts?
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