Tiny@revitup

We have the ability to raise the rev limiter, but that is where you start to run into problems. It will take a lot more testing before we decide to raise the limiter to anything higher then stock.

theBLUEone

Ok, this does make sense and would be more reliable than nitrous...

Dman

all i know is the quicker the better. its taken too long for decent power adding mods to come out for this thing. as long as the s3 makes 310 or more at the wheels im good. hell i've thought about selling the rx-7 that im getting for free, and just modding the hell out of the cobalt...hmmm

Tiny@revitup

Well, while I don't want to give out specifics, I will dispell the rumor that nitrous is unreliable. It's the same as adding a turbo to the car, the only problem is that it is 20 times easier. Thats what gives it a bad name cause its very easy to people to blow thier cars up if they are not careful.

theBLUEone

Yea, I see where you are coming from, if used correctly then nitrous is safe...

Ljavy17

hey tiny how about answering some PMs man? sent you like 3.

Tiny@revitup

No pm's in the box that I see. Sure you are sending them to Tiny@revitup?

EndZz

Well I guess NO2 could be safe, but it creates more Nx than a power adder like turbo, plus there's a button, while power adders like cams and pullies are always on and NO2 has to be filled and always costs money and you have to keep paying, while parts are payed for once. Plus Bottle are for babies!!! I want something that makes more power by adding more air which is the main goal in making a car go fast, which coincidently is exactly what NO2 does lol. I'd like nothing better than to flip a person off while I fly by them as they have their finger on the button

cvenom2122

hey tiny are you guys going to use some new injectors? intense has some plug and play 42lbs ones that i want but im looking into your kit ide rather not splice if i dont have to

I wish the piggy back came plug and play (thinks to self DAMNIT)

Tofu

Hmm...with a response like that, I'm going to go ahead and assume that Stage 3 involves nitrous. (Not bashing at all, I completely agree with you)

Dman

hmm...decision are hard these days...i wont be ordering till march which is when yalls stage three is coming out...but i mean, if nitrous is involved them im not interested. bottles are for babies...mind you, really fast babies...but just not my cup of tea...lol

i mean hell, im still trying to figure out if i want to sell the rx-7 or not...

CobaltSS422

since the Intense kit is completely plug and play now is it a thought for revitup to be plug and play?

Dman

you would think...lol

R33P3R007

rev it up is not going to change the injectors. they are going to use the crazy thing, and add the additional fuel rail with another set of injectors completely. wich i feel in the long run will help produce more power since they will not open until needed, and you will be able to program all the crazyness for when and how much they come on.

Dman

that seems a lil overkill to add for yet another set of injectors on top of the 4 already there...just changing them out would be the simple solution...they must have something crazy instore...

R33P3R007

You will all see soon enough. the CRAZYNESS IS UPON US!!!!!

Twincharged

Another set of 4 injectors is the only way to properly tune the LSJ. If you swap out the factory injectors for larger ones then you have to scale back the fuel via sensor manipulation. This will cause to ECU to respond in a negative manner, and result in bigger problems with the tune down the line.

Brian MP5T

EIC

Here is a inexpensive solution with good results.

Don't let the Look of the porduct fool you, it's all GO no Show

http://www.sdsefi.com/eic.html

Dman

this is why we need a fully tunable ecu...

those guys working on cracking the thing need to hurry it up...GEEZ...LOL

Twincharged

That won't work. Sure it can add fuel but that is only a small portion of the solution. By it's self it is no good.

Tiny@revitup

Well, while I want to help answer a lot of questions, it seems like a lot of you are reluctant to do a little backgroud before you speak out, and you compare apples to oranges a lot.

First, at this point there isn't going to be a button that I know of to fire anything. Any time we've ever used any type of injection system it has been fully programmed and controlled by the engine management we supply. Second, "bottles are for babies" is a funny statement that is usually made by someone who just lost to a car running some type of injection. Lets face it, thats like saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall", and again, that statement is usually not used by big fella's.

Also, if you are going to try and make the statement that "putting bigger injectors in the car is the simplest solution" then you haven't tried it yet. The car is very sensitive to fluctuation in the electrical system, and in some places, with the bigger injectors, you have to pull a lot of fuel to get the stock driveability tuned in. However, if you pull that much voltage the computer freaks out and you end up settling for a half working tune that at times will just dump stupid amounts of fuel into the motor at unimportant times. The car doesn't like that.

The only way to tune the car, and get the FULL range of control that you need in order to make the car drive like stock and pull like hell, is to isolate the stock system and add some type of auxilary controler.

So where do we go from here? Well, this weekend i'm putting the redline back to stock and we are going to datalog the car. Then, we'll dyno stock vs. stage 1 vs stage 2. After that we'll go ahead and dyno stage 3.

If you don't want to go fast, and you want to settle on a little quicker, then you can get whatever pulley kit you want. As far as i'm concerned they are all pretty much the same because a 2.8 pulley is a 2.8 pulley. You can't make 40 more hp on one car then on another because it is a MECHANICAL system, and I haven't seen anyone come out with some hightech standalone that will let you control all of the functions of the car so don't go that route.

Bottom line, if you want to go fast, and you want to spend some money and you want to beat those cars that everyone thinks are really fast, then you can stick with us and we'll get you there, but I will not argue for or against anyone elses kit, because thats only the tip of the iceburg.

R33P3R007

W3RD. let me know the numbers ASAP. I am saving for S3 already.

korax123

Im just waiting to see what S3 is....if it is nitrious then I am going with stage 2.

cvenom2122

sounds good i will wait longer


R33P3R007 you get you cat fixed yet bro??

retrop

Same here!!

The little information that Tiny has said about stage3 has been good for quelling some fears and adding more and more exctiement to know what it truly is.