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From: Quebec City, Quebec
Originally Posted by Tiny@revitup
Well, while I want to help answer a lot of questions, it seems like a lot of you are reluctant to do a little backgroud before you speak out, and you compare apples to oranges a lot.
First, at this point there isn't going to be a button that I know of to fire anything. Any time we've ever used any type of injection system it has been fully programmed and controlled by the engine management we supply. Second, "bottles are for babies" is a funny statement that is usually made by someone who just lost to a car running some type of injection. Lets face it, thats like saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall", and again, that statement is usually not used by big fella's.
Also, if you are going to try and make the statement that "putting bigger injectors in the car is the simplest solution" then you haven't tried it yet. The car is very sensitive to fluctuation in the electrical system, and in some places, with the bigger injectors, you have to pull a lot of fuel to get the stock driveability tuned in. However, if you pull that much voltage the computer freaks out and you end up settling for a half working tune that at times will just dump stupid amounts of fuel into the motor at unimportant times. The car doesn't like that.
The only way to tune the car, and get the FULL range of control that you need in order to make the car drive like stock and pull like hell, is to isolate the stock system and add some type of auxilary controler.
So where do we go from here? Well, this weekend i'm putting the redline back to stock and we are going to datalog the car. Then, we'll dyno stock vs. stage 1 vs stage 2. After that we'll go ahead and dyno stage 3.
If you don't want to go fast, and you want to settle on a little quicker, then you can get whatever pulley kit you want. As far as i'm concerned they are all pretty much the same because a 2.8 pulley is a 2.8 pulley. You can't make 40 more hp on one car then on another because it is a MECHANICAL system, and I haven't seen anyone come out with some hightech standalone that will let you control all of the functions of the car so don't go that route.
Bottom line, if you want to go fast, and you want to spend some money and you want to beat those cars that everyone thinks are really fast, then you can stick with us and we'll get you there, but I will not argue for or against anyone elses kit, because thats only the tip of the iceburg.
First, at this point there isn't going to be a button that I know of to fire anything. Any time we've ever used any type of injection system it has been fully programmed and controlled by the engine management we supply. Second, "bottles are for babies" is a funny statement that is usually made by someone who just lost to a car running some type of injection. Lets face it, thats like saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall", and again, that statement is usually not used by big fella's.
Also, if you are going to try and make the statement that "putting bigger injectors in the car is the simplest solution" then you haven't tried it yet. The car is very sensitive to fluctuation in the electrical system, and in some places, with the bigger injectors, you have to pull a lot of fuel to get the stock driveability tuned in. However, if you pull that much voltage the computer freaks out and you end up settling for a half working tune that at times will just dump stupid amounts of fuel into the motor at unimportant times. The car doesn't like that.
The only way to tune the car, and get the FULL range of control that you need in order to make the car drive like stock and pull like hell, is to isolate the stock system and add some type of auxilary controler.
So where do we go from here? Well, this weekend i'm putting the redline back to stock and we are going to datalog the car. Then, we'll dyno stock vs. stage 1 vs stage 2. After that we'll go ahead and dyno stage 3.
If you don't want to go fast, and you want to settle on a little quicker, then you can get whatever pulley kit you want. As far as i'm concerned they are all pretty much the same because a 2.8 pulley is a 2.8 pulley. You can't make 40 more hp on one car then on another because it is a MECHANICAL system, and I haven't seen anyone come out with some hightech standalone that will let you control all of the functions of the car so don't go that route.
Bottom line, if you want to go fast, and you want to spend some money and you want to beat those cars that everyone thinks are really fast, then you can stick with us and we'll get you there, but I will not argue for or against anyone elses kit, because thats only the tip of the iceburg.
I would be pleased to get the numbers out of this datalog.
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From: Delaware
Originally Posted by JAESS
Keep up the good work guys I have the stage one and will be waiting for more info on 2 & 3. Thanks guys.
Rev it up is the way to go.
Joe
Rev it up is the way to go.
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From: Philadelphia, Pa
Originally Posted by cvenom2122
sounds good i will wait longer 
R33P3R007 you get you cat fixed yet bro??
R33P3R007 you get you cat fixed yet bro??
o well. just waiting on rays exhaust
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From: USaaayyyy
Originally Posted by Tiny@revitup
First, at this point there isn't going to be a button that I know of to fire anything. Any time we've ever used any type of injection system it has been fully programmed and controlled by the engine management we supply. Second, "bottles are for babies" is a funny statement that is usually made by someone who just lost to a car running some type of injection. Lets face it, thats like saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall", and again, that statement is usually not used by big fella's.
sorry to burst your bubble bub...i dont run nitrous simply because i dont believe in it. i would rather have a constant power supply that didn't have to worry about having to fill up every so often. i mean hell, gas prices alone are bad enough these days, i dont need to worry about another mouth to feed in this car. and kudos for controlling any time of injection with the software you provide, just not my cup of tea, sorry...
and yeah i agree about the auxilary controller thing, my end all that im waiting on is the fully mapable software though...if yalls stage three really is coming out in march and yall can show some numbers and a rough sketch of what its gonna consist of ill go with yall as planned...but i know how things come up and projects get delayed...
just keep the info coming and keep us shut up and wanting more...lol
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From: philly
Originally Posted by Dman
sorry to burst your bubble bub...i dont run nitrous simply because i dont believe in it. i would rather have a constant power supply that didn't have to worry about having to fill up every so often. i mean hell, gas prices alone are bad enough these days, i dont need to worry about another mouth to feed in this car. and kudos for controlling any time of injection with the software you provide, just not my cup of tea, sorry...
and yeah i agree about the auxilary controller thing, my end all that im waiting on is the fully mapable software though...if yalls stage three really is coming out in march and yall can show some numbers and a rough sketch of what its gonna consist of ill go with yall as planned...but i know how things come up and projects get delayed...
just keep the info coming and keep us shut up and wanting more...lol
and yeah i agree about the auxilary controller thing, my end all that im waiting on is the fully mapable software though...if yalls stage three really is coming out in march and yall can show some numbers and a rough sketch of what its gonna consist of ill go with yall as planned...but i know how things come up and projects get delayed...
just keep the info coming and keep us shut up and wanting more...lol
i say buy the gm kit
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From: USaaayyyy
Originally Posted by ray@revitup
i say buy the gm kit
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From: philly
Originally Posted by Dman
well i hope i dont have to wait that long, i wanna see what ya'lls kit will consist of before i make a move anywhere...i got a ton of fresh money waiting to dump into this thing...not really worried about the warrenty...got a spare motor on order
nice , i will deff let you know as sooon as i have info to release
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From: Joisey
They are getting the final revision for better fitment on the rail. After that it will be installed on one of their in-house cars and a base tune will be made. We just have to road test it for a bit, then it is a go!
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From: USaaayyyy
Originally Posted by Twincharged
They are getting the final revision for better fitment on the rail. After that it will be installed on one of their in-house cars and a base tune will be made. We just have to road test it for a bit, then it is a go!
