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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Okay now I found it. That sucks but the other guy NJBLUESS has his up and running so he will know if it's reusable and would this not be included if it was really needed. It should also be on that instruction sheet you have.
Yeah I beleive I saw where it said to be cafeful with it and check for damage before reinstalling the supercharger. By those instructions, if they need to order another one, then they are responsible for those charges.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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GET US SOME TRACK SLIPS!!!! Screw the dyno, I wanna see what it can do in the 1/4mi!!!
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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GET US SOME TRACK SLIPS!!!! Screw the dyno, I wanna see what it can do in the 1/4mi!!!
I use to say that too but just cause a person has a kit doesn't mean there good on the track. You don't want one bad driver to represent the whole bunch. 13.3-13.6's on 2.1 and better launches i think are more than obtainable on street tires. Like me if i had the flash and injectors I could see 13.5's with 103+ traps on mud and snows no problem.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Not having time or a ride out to drop it off very far away, I badgered Bill Heard's parts department some more today. The guy in there did a search of the inventory of every US dealership and then gave me a print out with phone numbers of only 4 dealerships that show stock, all in the mid-west. He says if he orders it himself through the dealership that it will take possibly months, but I might be able to call these dealers and talk them into selling me one of these kits. Now common sense tells me if they have a kit, they ordered it for a customer's car. Why do I keep wasting my time with these people?
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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1-2 psi is not bad at all. The motor is built to run on boost. If we didn't have an innercooler we would have issues but we are all good. Remember supercharged motors aren't going to run for 200,000 miles but it's fun while you have it. The GM 3" pulley isn't all that drastic either. We will see what happens with reliabilty.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dervin3
Yeah I beleive I saw where it said to be cafeful with it and check for damage before reinstalling the supercharger. By those instructions, if they need to order another one, then they are responsible for those charges.
Where does it say that exactly? I want something I can show him other than postings or my word.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Where does it say that exactly? I want something I can show him other than postings or my word.
Check the directions for the stage kit.....and see if it says it in there. If changing it is not listed tell them you are not paying them to replace it.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
1-2 psi is not bad at all. The motor is built to run on boost. If we didn't have an innercooler we would have issues but we are all good. Remember supercharged motors aren't going to run for 200,000 miles but it's fun while you have it. The GM 3" pulley isn't all that drastic either. We will see what happens with reliabilty.
Agreed. Stage 2 was designed with longjevity in mine (besides the clutch). 77.9 mm pulley (nothing drastic) to maximize the m62 and have it running for a while. As well im thinking 1-3 psi increae will be no promblem for the engine at all. We will ultimately see how good these GM stg2 kits are but for now, no cares and rip it up!
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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GM stage 1 ordered today...

Well both me and my brother Cvenom2122 (redline) ordered the Stage 1 GM kit today.

17801947 Power Upg 3.342 BIN none List 529.95 Net 475.00


He said it will be in in 5 days. Stage 2 was not in yet, and he said they probably wont have it till April. I wanted to go stage 1 now, and later on determin if I wanted to go stage 2.

Anyway we should have them installed next week!

Nucar here in DE had them. Ordered from warehouse.


Can someone tell me how the warranty works on these kits stage 1 independantly of stage 2?
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by p7x
Agreed. Stage 2 was designed with longjevity in mine (besides the clutch). 77.9 mm pulley (nothing drastic) to maximize the m62 and have it running for a while. As well im thinking 1-3 psi increae will be no promblem for the engine at all. We will ultimately see how good these GM stg2 kits are but for now, no cares and rip it up!
Good to know and thanks!

I know there is always a trade off, Performance for Longevity, Just didnt know if it was bad to constantly boost.

I appreciate all of the input!

I will boost away!
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chipsgt
Good to know and thanks!

I know there is always a trade off, Performance for Longevity, Just didnt know if it was bad to constantly boost.

I appreciate all of the input!

I will boost away!

Think the only thing it will be bad for is gas mileage....
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Oh Yeah, good call on the gas mileage. Mine instantly dropped. The injectors are bigger so that is obvious. Not to mention the beating on it part that comes natural after a HP upgrade. It's all good.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by retrop
Think the only thing it will be bad for is gas mileage....


man to i ever hate hearing about gas mileage. "Does my spoiler delete give me better gas mileage?" jesus man.

I think with the injectors are cars are going to become ****** but i don't think ppl will care. But If someone does ill flame before they can say 3 inch pulley.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Think the only thing it will be bad for is gas mileage....


I am not expecting to retain any kind of GOOD economy!
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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exactly, if you did you would have gotton the 2,4
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Where does it say that exactly? I want something I can show him other than postings or my word.
It's in the "SuperCharger Replacement" document in SI (Service Information) Document 1542135
It says in Step 8 (and I quote)
Originally Posted by Service Information (FSM)
8. Remove the supercharger . Remove the gasket if damaged.
Nowhere does it state that the gasket MUST be replaced (as is OFTEN the case in a non-reusable gasket or seal) The dealer is just trying to cover his ass and have the parts, in case it IS damaged.

I would just tell them the kit is supposed to have everything you need (and IF NOT THEY are the ones that should call GMPP) and IF a gasket WAS neccessary it would be in the kit.

If they say it WAS damaged, make sure you tell them BEFOREHAND to keep the old parts (including the old pulley) AS IT'S YOURS IF YOU PAID FOR A NEW ONE. Should be pretty easy to tell if the damamge was due to mishandling as opposed to a tear in the sealing bead, during seperation (very rare)

HTH
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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way to make the same post as you bro at the same time.. Funny. anyway,

Post here if you bro doesn't https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16145
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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didn't he say that he had his car back now and was waiting for the new gasket? so doesnt that tell us that it can't be broken or damaged at the moment?

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Bro worst comes to worst, bring the car to another dealership for the install. If they say the same thing, just bring them to this site and this thread, we'll take him out back for you.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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stage 1:

Nucar connection/delaware

ask for Kurt

475 shipped
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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always happends bro
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mken
Not having time or a ride out to drop it off very far away, I badgered Bill Heard's parts department some more today. The guy in there did a search of the inventory of every US dealership and then gave me a print out with phone numbers of only 4 dealerships that show stock, all in the mid-west. He says if he orders it himself through the dealership that it will take possibly months, but I might be able to call these dealers and talk them into selling me one of these kits. Now common sense tells me if they have a kit, they ordered it for a customer's car. Why do I keep wasting my time with these people?
Where in FL are you, I got mine from UNiversity Chevy in Tampa, they didnt really know what i was talking about until i made them look it up on dealer world, they are a good dealership, if your not to far from Tampa, id say deal with them.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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$750 + 120 install

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
It's in the "SuperCharger Replacement" document in SI (Service Information) Document 1542135
It says in Step 8 (and I quote)
Nowhere does it state that the gasket MUST be replaced (as is OFTEN the case in a non-reusable gasket or seal) The dealer is just trying to cover his ass and have the parts, in case it IS damaged.

I would just tell them the kit is supposed to have everything you need (and IF NOT THEY are the ones that should call GMPP) and IF a gasket WAS neccessary it would be in the kit.

If they say it WAS damaged, make sure you tell them BEFOREHAND to keep the old parts (including the old pulley) AS IT'S YOURS IF YOU PAID FOR A NEW ONE. Should be pretty easy to tell if the damamge was due to mishandling as opposed to a tear in the sealing bead, during seperation (very rare)

HTH
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Thats great but can I print it out? Wheres that doc.? What makes me mad is that it was supposed to be done yesterday and now I have to wait a week for a gasket I dont even need and that I have to pay for...
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Where in FL are you, I got mine from UNiversity Chevy in Tampa, they didnt really know what i was talking about until i made them look it up on dealer world, they are a good dealership, if your not to far from Tampa, id say deal with them.
I live in Lakeland, but I went ahead and called University a little bit ago. He said someone bought stage one and should have it tommorrow, let me know how it is! He said $750 for stage 2 and after calling GM (since the Bill Heard parts guy didn't feel like making any phone calls) he said that he thinks they could get it by the middle of next week, just a parts shortage that they are waiting on. I'll probably take a ride up there this afternoon to order it (they won't take credit cards over the phone).



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