View Poll Results: Those who have it. Which is better?
Stage 1 with smaller pulley
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stage 2
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#653
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I am going straight for the Stage 2 upgrade. Hopefully the pacesetter exhaust will be out by summer so I have have that in addition to the stage 2.
You guys have to have that on for the dyno day at evolution!
You guys have to have that on for the dyno day at evolution!
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
My install will be done by noon friday and I have a 2pm appointment to get it dynoed. It is going to be one fun drive from North Van to Langley
#655
Originally Posted by cvenom2122
i think im gonna throw a 2.8 billet flow on mine
Stage 1: 425
Billet Pulley: 115
Install costs: 130 (est)
total: $670
Probably saves you like $150. This is what i'm gonna do anyway.
#656
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Originally Posted by Maverick
Yep, I'm going to buy a 3.14" from billet flow for when my stage 1 gets here. pulley only $115 say $60 for install.
Stage 1: 425
Billet Pulley: 115
Install costs: 130 (est)
total: $670
Probably saves you like $150. This is what i'm gonna do anyway.
Stage 1: 425
Billet Pulley: 115
Install costs: 130 (est)
total: $670
Probably saves you like $150. This is what i'm gonna do anyway.
I know the ECU upgrades are different between 1 and 2, I wonder if you can ask for the stage 2 ecu upgrade when you bring it in.
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Stage 1 installed!!!
I just got teh call from my buddy's dealership today and the kit was in!!! I left work early to get the ecm reflashed The tech flashed the ecm "under the table" and the whole process took about 1/2 hour. He had to call into GM and speak to an actual person to get the recal uploaded to his Tech 2. This is the wierd part, the GM person asked the tech whether the car was being flashed with the 230 hp kit or the 245 hp kit My buddy says STAGE 2!!! So is there a different recal? I babied the car home and changed the injectors in 1/2 hour and now I'm having dinner and gonna rip it later tonight. Initial impression is the car doesn't feel a whole lot faster up to 4K rpm but I've been running a 3.15 pulley for 3 weeks now so maybe it isn't as dramatic. I may be going to the track this weekend so if I do I'll post times. I'm gonna make a few runs with the 3.15 then the 2.9 goes on full time and the 2.7 will be strip only.
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Originally Posted by Mercury
This will be interesting to see how it stacks up to the GM stage 1 upgrade.
I know the ECU upgrades are different between 1 and 2, I wonder if you can ask for the stage 2 ecu upgrade when you bring it in.
I know the ECU upgrades are different between 1 and 2, I wonder if you can ask for the stage 2 ecu upgrade when you bring it in.
And the Stage 2 kit has been released becuase some people have it already. I think it is sold out though.
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Originally Posted by 06G5GT
It's called flat rate. A labor time is assigned to just about every job on a car regardless of how long it actually takes. You can either agree to the price or go somewhere else. This way, the tech knows what he's getting paid and in most cases, it's enough time to do the job right. The customer also knows how much they are paying up front. The flat rate system is no different than a contractor giving you a price to renovate your house but yet we see nobody standing around with a stopwatch then do we?
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Im guessing 2.5, for what teh service guys said there is time spent on the phone! when they call in ur code and other crazy stg2 ***** and you get charged for the time they are on the phone.
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Those of you that have seen / heard lower install times, I would appreciate the name (and number if readily available) of the dealers you've talked to. That way, I can at least go to this guy and say, "look here, they'll do it for half as much."
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by ninja44
I just got teh call from my buddy's dealership today and the kit was in!!! I left work early to get the ecm reflashed The tech flashed the ecm "under the table" and the whole process took about 1/2 hour. He had to call into GM and speak to an actual person to get the recal uploaded to his Tech 2. This is the wierd part, the GM person asked the tech whether the car was being flashed with the 230 hp kit or the 245 hp kit My buddy says STAGE 2!!! So is there a different recal? I babied the car home and changed the injectors in 1/2 hour and now I'm having dinner and gonna rip it later tonight. Initial impression is the car doesn't feel a whole lot faster up to 4K rpm but I've been running a 3.15 pulley for 3 weeks now so maybe it isn't as dramatic. I may be going to the track this weekend so if I do I'll post times. I'm gonna make a few runs with the 3.15 then the 2.9 goes on full time and the 2.7 will be strip only.
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Well that is cool! buy stage one, get a pulley, have a buddy to get STage 2 recalibartion and presto - you have stage 2 capability!
You probably wont notice much of a difference until the upper RPMS since you already had the pulley. Keep us informed on how it goes.
You probably wont notice much of a difference until the upper RPMS since you already had the pulley. Keep us informed on how it goes.
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
Well that is cool! buy stage one, get a pulley, have a buddy to get STage 2 recalibartion and presto - you have stage 2 capability!
You probably wont notice much of a difference until the upper RPMS since you already had the pulley. Keep us informed on how it goes.
You probably wont notice much of a difference until the upper RPMS since you already had the pulley. Keep us informed on how it goes.
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I think this will be interesting...(non-North Carolina Residents)
gmpartsdirect.com
stage 1 (17801947)- $452 ($365+$87.60 for shipping)
stage 2 (17803229)- $682 ($550+$132 for shipping)
stage 1 to 2 (17803230) $372 ($300+$72 for shipping)
crateenginedepot.com
stage 1 - $445.95 shipped
stage 2 - $657.95 shipped
stage 1 to 2 - $360.95 shipped
thats just 2 examples for you
gmpartsdirect.com
stage 1 (17801947)- $452 ($365+$87.60 for shipping)
stage 2 (17803229)- $682 ($550+$132 for shipping)
stage 1 to 2 (17803230) $372 ($300+$72 for shipping)
crateenginedepot.com
stage 1 - $445.95 shipped
stage 2 - $657.95 shipped
stage 1 to 2 - $360.95 shipped
thats just 2 examples for you
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Originally Posted by ninja44
Exactly what I felt during the 5 min drive, I wasn't able to get it above 4K in my area so it didn't feel thet dramatic. I'm gonna slap on the 2.9 friday to give the car a bit of adjustment time.
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I am not so sure that they are the same. In the instructions it says "apply Stage 2 decal over Stage 1 decal". The tech that flashed my car was asked by GM which kit was going into my car the 230 hp kit or the 245 hp kit. He said Stage 2 as I was bugging him to say that and the flash was uploaded to his Tech 2. Why would they need to know which kit it is if the flash is the same?
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Originally Posted by truray4
So did you actually purchase stage 1, or was it all done as a side job
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Originally Posted by ninja44
I am not so sure that they are the same. In the instructions it says "apply Stage 2 decal over Stage 1 decal". The tech that flashed my car was asked by GM which kit was going into my car the 230 hp kit or the 245 hp kit. He said Stage 2 as I was bugging him to say that and the flash was uploaded to his Tech 2. Why would they need to know which kit it is if the flash is the same?