2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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to me the biggest difference between stg1 and a smaller pulley and stg2 is the fact that stg2 gives you a belt measured perfectly for the smaller pulley... you can safely run stg1 with a 3.15 pulley and you will only be losing around 2 hp and 5 lbs of tq but to go smaller with stg1 you would need a larger idler pulley.....
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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yay, another stage thread! To date thereae is 408 stage kit threads. Soooo many possiblities
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Some of these posts are just funny.

3" Pulley + Real Tune + Injectors = 36HP sure, look what half assed piggy back kits add.

People this people that, I can't wait to see a dyno.
What exactly are piggy back kits...I mean what is piggy backing???? Sorry I have only tuned my truck and haven't ever tuned a car so alot of this is kinda new to me
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CustomSS
What exactly are piggy back kits...I mean what is piggy backing???? Sorry I have only tuned my truck and haven't ever tuned a car so alot of this is kinda new to me
Piggy back units piggy back the ecu to trick it and make more power.

Also we should be seeing a dyno on stage 2 in about 3 hours.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Ok gm claims their car to have 205 hp.... and said this upgrade will increase it to 245 hp....


Hence me assuming that we will be getting a 40 whp increase.


YES I have modded a car it was a 1991 Supra turbo that put down around 400 hp by the time I was done with it....
Dont give me b.s about not appreciating this kit ofcourse i dont. I paid 1 grand for injectors a pulley, and a reflash thats pure bullshit and there is no way to sugar coat it.


Now this would be all 100% ok if all the dealerships backed this product as far as the warranty goes but this is just not the case as many people have discovered.

If I was to buy intake + stage 2 and get 50whp increase I would do it in a second, yet the more I read from other peoples experiences with this product the more I am starting to doubt I will get more than a 30whp increase including intake....
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nick11
Ok gm claims their car to have 205 hp.... and said this upgrade will increase it to 245 hp....


Hence me assuming that we will be getting a 40 whp increase.


YES I have modded a car it was a 1991 Supra turbo that put down around 400 hp by the time I was done with it....
Dont give me b.s about not appreciating this kit ofcourse i dont. I paid 1 grand for injectors a pulley, and a reflash thats pure bullshit and there is no way to sugar coat it.


Now this would be all 100% ok if all the dealerships backed this product as far as the warranty goes but this is just not the case as many people have discovered.

If I was to buy intake + stage 2 and get 50whp increase I would do it in a second, yet the more I read from other peoples experiences with this product the more I am starting to doubt I will get more than a 30whp increase including intake....
Gm will back the warrenty. Cant help you if dealers in your area are stupid. Go to another dealer. Your not married to the place you bought your car from.

Good luck selling it. Seeing as someone will need your vin for the bullshit reflash.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Stage 2 Dyno'd Yes really

http://www.******************/forums...f?d=1144442855
oh and its at redline forums . com
22hp gain
11tq

DynoJet

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

discuss.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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try posting the pic instead of the link
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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They shouldnt require log ins to view it.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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nope got the dealer price $570, then i got 200 knocked off
you got a great deal....fyi dealer price is $525 (not that it matters since you got it less than that)
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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its not a picture its a pdf. and it is too big to upload to this site.

admin type people - 4gb size for jpeg and 19.5kb for pdf? Um huh?
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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for all those who are getting outrageous prices from your dealership, why dont you just buy it from http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...arts-C144.aspx since they are selling it for $637
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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I am so feeling this guy right now...
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Stage 2 dyno'd
22hp
11tq

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16897
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Will you just give the specifics? What were the before and after numbers? Any other mods?
To be real accurate, he needs to have a stock baseline, and a dyno with just stage 2, corrected. Thanks
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick
http://www.******************/forums...f?d=1144442855
oh and its at redline forums . com
22hp gain
11tq

DynoJet

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

discuss.
WTF I hope it's better gains than 22 HP as mine arived today & I'll have it installed monday so I hope by friday I can get it Dynoed & post some better gains !!!
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WJT DEMON
Have any of you played with a DSM
o o o i have i have!!!!!
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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I tried to load it, and failed as well. He didn't even take the car up to redline. He also has a header, exhaust, and intake. Something doesn't seem right.

I'll post numbers next week for you guys, as I get my kit tuesday. I have a baseline on a Mustang dyno already to compare it with. My stock number may look low, but my car easily keeps up with SRT-4's.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad06SS
Will you just give the specifics? What were the before and after numbers? Any other mods?
To be real accurate, he needs to have a stock baseline, and a dyno with just stage 2, corrected. Thanks
gets right on that.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
I tried to load it, and failed as well. He didn't even take the car up to redline. He also has a header, exhaust, and intake. Something doesn't seem right.

I'll post numbers next week for you guys, as I get my kit tuesday. I have a baseline on a Mustang dyno already to compare it with. My stock number may look low, but my car easily keeps up with SRT-4's.

Yea, it definitely needs to go untill cutoff.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
I tried to load it, and failed as well. He didn't even take the car up to redline. He also has a header, exhaust, and intake. Something doesn't seem right.

I'll post numbers next week for you guys, as I get my kit tuesday. I have a baseline on a Mustang dyno already to compare it with. My stock number may look low, but my car easily keeps up with SRT-4's.
I also have a base dyno on a mustang dyno & I get my kit (STG 2) installed monday & so I'll try to get a dyno by friday as the Dyno is only 4 blocks away
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
I tried to load it, and failed as well. He didn't even take the car up to redline. He also has a header, exhaust, and intake. Something doesn't seem right.

I'll post numbers next week for you guys, as I get my kit tuesday. I have a baseline on a Mustang dyno already to compare it with. My stock number may look low, but my car easily keeps up with SRT-4's.
if you couldn't load it how do you know he didn't take it up to redline?
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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if you couldn't load it how do you know he didn't take it up to redline?
He couldnt load it to this website.
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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I've got a question. Would the boost bypass mod help in gaining more hp or did they take the limiter out with the new reflash?
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by memphisr24
I've got a question. Would the boost bypass mod help in gaining more hp or did they take the limiter out with the new reflash?
It would I assume. I wouldnt keep it plugged for daily driving. Only use it for dyno and track times.



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