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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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but 241 hp is 241 hp. i dont blame ya. i think everyone should get one free for just waiting on this.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Darksun280
no you'd be dumb and be paying for injectors that you don't need from the intense kit and a 2.8 pulley that you could get off line for 60 bucks. If you really wanted anything from the intense kit it would be the maf-trans which all you'd really want to be doing is leaning the car out to make it run harder. not really worth the $175 for the maf-trans IMO but It would be nice to see how rich the stage flash makes you run than lean it out and see how much extra hp is still hidden in there. I think piggy backs are bad enough as it is but the intense kit ain't even really that.

Let me re-phrase this. What if I got my own injectors and smaller pulley. Went to GM and had someone I know there reflash for me. As far as warranty issue goes I'm not worried about it
1. because my dealer turns a blind eye when it comes to aftermarket parts. 2. most of the people that work there (parts, service, and sales) are my friends and I have known them for YEARS. 3. Never really had a car long enough anyway.

Just saying that if the GM stage 2 kit is nothing more then a reflash, injectors and pulley why not just buy that stuff myself get a smaller 2.8 pulley and just hit the stage 2 reflash. It would be a LOT cheaper than $750 which GM is charging for the same thing.

I know, I'd lose my warranty, but like I said that isn't a concern of mine, so for someone would this be a better option then going GM?
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by snowcrash
Let me re-phrase this. What if I got my own injectors and smaller pulley. Went to GM and had someone I know there reflash for me. As far as warranty issue goes I'm not worried about it
1. because my dealer turns a blind eye when it comes to aftermarket parts. 2. most of the people that work there (parts, service, and sales) are my friends and I have known them for YEARS. 3. Never really had a car long enough anyway.

Just saying that if the GM stage 2 kit is nothing more then a reflash, injectors and pulley why not just buy that stuff myself get a smaller 2.8 pulley and just hit the stage 2 reflash. It would be a LOT cheaper than $750 which GM is charging for the same thing.

I know, I'd lose my warranty, but like I said that isn't a concern of mine, so for someone would this be a better option then going GM?
well if you could swing that whole thing with just getting the flash than you sir are my hero and very lucky. That would be what i would do though if i could. The flash would have to run you no more than around 170 to get though by itself and the injectos around the same through intense other wise its the same as getting a stage one kit from gm that remember still has a warrenty.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Thx Dark. Seems like i have been trying to ask this question for days and havent been able to get it across right. =)

Talking to my buddy now (service tech at GM) and he is seeing if he can get the reflash in his computer and we will install some injectors and smaller pulley and maybe even an exhaust soon. His uncle also owns a shop with a dyno so we will also be able to hit it up with a nice tune after.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by snowcrash
Thx Dark. Seems like i have been trying to ask this question for days and havent been able to get it across right. =)

Talking to my buddy now (service tech at GM) and he is seeing if he can get the reflash in his computer and we will install some injectors and smaller pulley and maybe even an exhaust soon. His uncle also owns a shop with a dyno so we will also be able to hit it up with a nice tune after.
Good Luck with that! The stage kit includes a code, that code is needed to obtain your VCI # after talking to a Rep. and giving them your VIN #. The VCI will only be good for that one specific VIN. Do you think GM spent their time and money to allow the program to get out to anyone?
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Good Luck with that! The stage kit includes a code, that code is needed to obtain your VCI # after talking to a Rep. and giving them your VIN #. The VCI will only be good for that one specific VIN. Do you think GM spent their time and money to allow the program to get out to anyone?
Well that kinda sucks. Guess thats good for GM though so people cant do what i'm thinking about.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by snowcrash
Well that kinda sucks. Guess thats good for GM though so people cant do what i'm thinking about.
I know, all the ideas are flying out there.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Stage 1 on its way! No how much is GM going to charge me for just the reflash? Also I have a friend that works for GMC Pontiac can he do the reflash for me??
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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they wont be able to keep it from the aftermarket people. Rev It Up has a cobalt. they will just tell Gm there VIN # im sure if needed
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JCswoosher2
they wont be able to keep it from the aftermarket people. Rev It Up has a cobalt. they will just tell Gm there VIN # im sure if needed
That is not how it works! You need to retrieve the data from the PCM in the car into the Tech2. Then connect the Tech2 to the Techline terminal(web based down load) If the VIN in the Tech2 does not match what you are requesting, it will not let you do anything. Trust me there are quite a few security features.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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so stage 1 reflash and injectors with a 2.8", colder plugs, and tensioner or smaller belt should essentially be close to Intense stage 3?
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GSoccer24
so stage 1 reflash and injectors with a 2.8", colder plugs, and tensioner or smaller belt should essentially be close to Intense stage 3?
no better the mere fact you have a flash and not sumthing that just tricks maf signals has you ahead of the game/ They call that maf translator tunning but its so basic its almost a lie IMO. No intense fans get snippy please. If anything state your case then will argue about it.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Lets not forget about the raised rev limit. That will help out times a lot.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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If any 1 from INTENSE is looking at this thread, I was going with u guys 100%..... until about 15 min ago. And now after pretty much reading this whole thread, and the few others, even tho i had no intention of EVER GOING WITH THE GM KITS .... i'm sorry to say, u guys lost a potential customer. GM stg 2 is the winner as far as I'm concerned. BTW I could give a flyin fu*k about the warrentee if its gunna give me a higher red line, (I'll be getting valve springs this summer) it just seemd logical. OR until sum 1 makes a Twin Charge kit for htis puppy!
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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i have a cobalt addiction stage 5 with a 2.6 pulley....u have to change the hub from the supercharger in order to put it on. try them and they give u a reflash when u send your pcm in to them.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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holy old thread batman...
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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holy old thread batman...
<hahahahaha

i hope he's decided which to go with by now
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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You have to give him credit though cause he did do some searching
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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jesus haha i think the op may be dead its been so long
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BoomInIt
Think I'm going the RIU route. Stage 2 then 3 when available. I want 315whp+! The GM stage kits will not offer that kind of power for me.

Just so you know, the crank can handle 500 horse, but the rest of the internals are built to handle 305 horse max.
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