View Poll Results: GM vs Intense Stage Kits?
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GM stage kits vs Intense
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From: Doylestown PA
Originally Posted by theBLUEone
I know I will not be going with GM for a fact...I have been seriously thinking about INTENSE, because their kit is plug and play and seems to have good gains. Also, INTENSE has not made any promises or any kind of statement that they will be coming out with anything else....
While Rev It Up has a nice kit with the SMT-6 and they live close to me, but I haven't heard great things from people who have the kit unlike people with the INTENSE kit. Also, Rev It Up is coming out with other stages and such in the future as stated....
While Rev It Up has a nice kit with the SMT-6 and they live close to me, but I haven't heard great things from people who have the kit unlike people with the INTENSE kit. Also, Rev It Up is coming out with other stages and such in the future as stated....
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From: Houston
Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Youre clutch is good to 300 horses, ALL STOCK INTERNALS are good to 300 horses. Besides that, anyone who pays $750 for the stage kits will probably upgrade their clutches eventually anyway (aka stage 2 clutch or higher). I know I want to get mine up to 350-400 horses, so Im going to upgrade the clutch ( along with many other parts ) before I reach that 300 horse mark.
On another point, no crap our clutches arent. Thats like saying our break pads arent warranteed.
On another point, no crap our clutches arent. Thats like saying our break pads arent warranteed.
How exactly do you plan to go about making 350-400hp and retaining your warranty?
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From: AZ
Last I read the rev limiter will not change, and the power gain on the GM Stages will be less than the INTENSE Stage 3 and the Rev It Up Stages.
Since none of us really know what is going to happen yet lets chill and resume this dicussion when everybody has something out, rather than speculate.
Since none of us really know what is going to happen yet lets chill and resume this dicussion when everybody has something out, rather than speculate.
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From: Metro Detroit
Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
Last I read the rev limiter will not change, and the power gain on the GM Stages will be less than the INTENSE Stage 3 and the Rev It Up Stages.
Since none of us really know what is going to happen yet lets chill and resume this dicussion when everybody has something out, rather than speculate.
Since none of us really know what is going to happen yet lets chill and resume this dicussion when everybody has something out, rather than speculate.
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From: Ajax, Ontario
Originally Posted by undrgrndcobalt
i'll stick with gm... i like my warranty... the intense kit is nice... but just don't need it that quick....
i am the same way.. I congradulate Intense and RevitUp on going out and creating aftermarket parts for our cars... and taking the chance and spending probrbaly countless hours of making our cars go faster........
ever since their products have come out i have read, read, and read some more, many times my mouse has been over the buy button...
but when it all comes down to it, i need a warrenty with my car... as much as i want more power, i have to do it in a way which if something goes wrong i will have Full GM technicians that will fix it..
Yes it is more money, no we dont know exactly what GM Stage kits will do, but WARRENTY is what will keep allowing me to bring my car in for problems and i think the xtra money for the product and the install is well worth it....
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From: UNDER YOUR BED
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
That is even funnier yet!!! 
I can tell you 3 cobalts right away with 260-275HP and have WASTED thier stock clutches!
300hp I thought that once, then i woke up!
I can tell you 3 cobalts right away with 260-275HP and have WASTED thier stock clutches!300hp
I thought that once, then i woke up!
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From: Indianapolis
Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Just because some people dont know how to drive stick, and decide to speed shift all the time, doesnt mean the rest of us dont know what were doing
I know quite well how to drive a manual equipped car, the fact is, the clutch will not hold the power!
Once you little wee wee's put some REAL tire on the car that will get some REAL grip. You'll ALL be replacing clutches. MARK my word's
And dare i ask how much power your cobalt is putting thru the clutch? Thought so!
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From: Niceville, FL
^^^^That's awsome. You definately tell it how it is. Power can kill clutches just as easily if not faster than a real crappy driver. People must realize that stock clutches were not designed to hold the extra 50+ hp and torque!
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From: Indianapolis
Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
^^^^That's awsome. You definately tell it how it is. Power can kill clutches just as easily if not faster than a real crappy driver. People must realize that stock clutches were not designed to hold the extra 50+ hp and torque!
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From: Flora, IL
Dealing with intense w/ the Grand Prix community, hands down i'm going to go GM. (Or ZZP when they pull out whatever it is underneath their hat.) I've read to many negative post about Intense to take a chance myself.
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From: Edmonton, AB
Originally Posted by SStud
Dealing with intense w/ the Grand Prix community, hands down i'm going to go GM. (Or ZZP when they pull out whatever it is underneath their hat.) I've read to many negative post about Intense to take a chance myself.
The way it is looking with the prices of the Staged Kits from GM, I might go Intense to save money.
GO Intense!
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From: Indianapolis
Originally Posted by SStud
Dealing with intense w/ the Grand Prix community, hands down i'm going to go GM. (Or ZZP when they pull out whatever it is underneath their hat.) I've read to many negative post about Intense to take a chance myself.
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From: Denver, CO
Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
So Ive been doing some research on both the stage kits and intense kits. So far the stage kits are more expensive, but for an additional $300 you also get a fully backed GM product.
Not only that, but all Ive seen is nothing but problems with the Intense kit and people complaining about how it doesnt work right.
From this Ive concluded the following about the GM Stage kits vs Intense:
GM:____________________________Intense:
Warranty Backed_________________No Warranty
Fully Functional___________________Possible Problems
More Expensive___________________Less Expensive
CEL Fix With Reflash_______________CEL
Power Gains Huge(1+ sec off 1/4mi)___Power Gains Comparable/Less To Stage Kits
Coming In Late March______________Out Already
Help Support GM!!!_________________Help Support Intense
Sorry to everyone if I sound bias, but I feel the GM products are going to be much better. Not only that, but theyre GM!!!
They have a full warranty, and the reflash will fix the CEL problem associated with the CAI's!!!
Soooooo.......
-I give GM stage kits
-And the Intense kit
I WANT TO KNOW EVERYONES OPINION! FEEL FREE TO VOTE ABOVE!
Not only that, but all Ive seen is nothing but problems with the Intense kit and people complaining about how it doesnt work right.
From this Ive concluded the following about the GM Stage kits vs Intense:
GM:____________________________Intense:
Warranty Backed_________________No Warranty
Fully Functional___________________Possible Problems
More Expensive___________________Less Expensive
CEL Fix With Reflash_______________CEL
Power Gains Huge(1+ sec off 1/4mi)___Power Gains Comparable/Less To Stage Kits
Coming In Late March______________Out Already
Help Support GM!!!_________________Help Support Intense
Sorry to everyone if I sound bias, but I feel the GM products are going to be much better. Not only that, but theyre GM!!!
They have a full warranty, and the reflash will fix the CEL problem associated with the CAI's!!!
Soooooo.......
-I give GM stage kits
-And the Intense kit
I WANT TO KNOW EVERYONES OPINION! FEEL FREE TO VOTE ABOVE!
Do we know for a fact that we can run any of the CAI's kits out there and not get a CEL if we have the GMPP Stage 2 kit?
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From: Chicago
Originally Posted by CobaltSSilver
Do we know for a fact that we can run any of the CAI's kits out there and not get a CEL if we have the GMPP Stage 2 kit?
Well......that damn CEL just popped up on me again and I have the stage 1. I hate that f-ing CEL.
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From: Denver, CO
Originally Posted by Acidangel_5.0
HOLY Risen old Thread batman
Yeah I didn't realize how old this thread is.....I just saw a claim about the CEL being killed off by the ECU reflash and thought I'd try my luck and see what folks say. I'm still not doing a CAI. The only thing I'd go for is a K&N drop-in but I'd rather add the GMPP Header and Corsa exhaust.
Any problems with the intense out there? GMPP Stage 2 is not slow at all on the street. That much I'll say.
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From: Denver, CO
I know intense Cobalt SS/SC will put down more power and it would show on the street too but I like my warranty *for now* and the GM upgrades have given me plenty to smile about.....as always though once you are fast you just keep wanting to get faster.
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