Not True. Think about it ZZP Mid Length exit is 2.5 and primary is 1.75. Bad Mab primary 1.71 exit 3inches! With ZZP 3inches Downpipe. That has more flow than ZZP Mid Length.

 

And they are lighter than ZZP Mid Length cause they are aluminum steel compare with Bad Mab header and ZZP 3inches Downpipe Stainless Steel combo is lighter! Cause Stainless Steel are lighter than Aluminum Steel.

 

have you put the said parts on a flowbench if yopu havent you have no clue whos flows better sometimes bigger isent always better

 

ZZP Mid length can be ordered with a 3" collector and 3" dp. Just email ZZP.

I am not knocking your product. Like I said, it is a good idea for someone who already has an aftermarket dp. But I think it is silly to think that unequal length shorty header is better then a nice midlength combo.

 

Ok, then why Bad Mab prove their dyno ? While ZZP doesn't. If ZZP want Cobalt owners buy their either Mid or Long Length then dyno it and prove Cobalt owners. That give them more options. Simple!

 

Cause dyno don't lie. DYNO IT! Prove it to us and put it in their sites.

 

anything you put on the engine will pickup over what the stock manifold will do and badmab dident prove **** the dyno sheet is from a member on here

 

Every dyno will spit out different numbers.

 

Lol you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever had the Pacesetter?
The pacesetter has a ball flange that serves as a flexpipe, and it doesn't leak a bit, unless your installer doesn't know what he's doing.
If you're getting the pacesetter just skip the coating, it's like 100 dollars more, waste of money IMO. The non coated will burn and chip the paint on it but you don't see it unless you're looking for it and it's not going to affect anything.
Bad mab, is ok, but it's a shorty header.
Pacesetter has flowed more than 99% of people will even attempt to reach....

 

I am not saying only Bad Mab...I am saying for those company who want to compete need to show their DYNO! If no DYNO then that give customers has a doubt to pay for. They need to prove us with DYNO. Then that give us an options for what Cobalt owners to decide which they want and what they are paying for. That's all I have to say.

 

LOL, You crack me up. That's funny. I had bad experience with ball flange. It will break if you ever want to race then by the time that get up to high heat then it will break. Thanks but no thanks, I rather stick with flexpipe that is not with ball flange.

 

again dynos will give you different numbers based on that specific dyno and other conditions. you would have to dyno the same car with both headers on the same dyno to get the most accurate numbers. we are talking 1-5 possible hp diffrence between the two headers which could be easily misinterpreted based on the dyno

 

considering that the other companies have been building a ecotec header and selling them longer then badmab (which is a cobalt addiction second gen header knoock off)its not a bad piece but there is better out there

 

That's funny cause I raced plenty of times dig and roll and never had 1 issue. I'm gonna say whoever put it on for you did it wrong if you had issues.

 

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You get what you pay for. I am not saying bad things about any company here. It would be nice to DYNO it on each stocker Cobalts and see which is better. But on the other hands it cost money. I can understand that.

 

I surely hope you're typing off of a phone .

 

LMAO! Yep! What's wrong with that. Cause I am bored. And I was hoping 1 day all Cobalt owner out there have a show. That would be nice. I don't have much badass Cobalt owners here. That I don't see yet.

 

Nothing wrong with it lol I was just hoping your lack in grammar skills was attributed to such lol.

 

That's a good 1! Now you really crack me up!

 

I am not looking for a fight. I am looking for facts. This is just a forums.

 

bad mab has proven gains on the dyno. Believe it was a 11hp gain from stock.

Believe its a moderator who did the dyno and has the chart.

 

^^^THIS^^^ I had a Remflex on mine and it's the Best Gaskets that Money can Buy!

 

Lol I'm just messing with you dude.
Your pacesetter shouldnt've leaked if installed correctly though.

 

See, there you go. That's what I am talking about. Facts don't lie!