Ok, You recommend people remove the stock h/e. Well if you remove the stock h/e. There is no need for mounting hardware. All you have to do is move the AC condensor back 1.5 inches. So I dont really understand why you recommend that to people but yet sell a H/E with brackets and whatnot. Not trying to be a dick...just kinda contradicting IMO.

 

ask yourself this, why would you sandwich the h/e when you can put it in front and get better airflow?

 

We'll have pics of our HE up tomorrow. Less money than anything comparable, direct bolt in, custom made for the cobalt, ZZP quality.

 

Thats exactly what I did. I moved the AC Condensor back to where the stock h/e was originally. Then I mounted my CXR h/e where the condensor was. No brackets, no cutting, no fabrications at all needed. And you end up with this...

 

Nice, competition is good I will be looking for this tommorrow as I will definitely be buying one by the end of the week.

so you ran the same bolt through the condensor and heat exchanger? and the holes are lined up for that with no modification?

 

Yep, thats correct. 2 bolts ( 1 on each side) 2 and 3/8 inches long...with a 1 inch spacer in between the condensor and h/e...fits perfect. In there snug. No cutting

 

Mounting perfrence and overall durability with brackets over just bolts, you also can have a little better fitment on either side.

 

I have this same kit and love it! The install was a breeze and everything you need is included. Fast98 responds very quickly to any questions you may have. OTT is a GREAT vendor! I recommend this kit for sure.

 

I guess. But it saves alot of time and effort. Plus it is bolted in the same way the stock condensors are bolted in plus with a bigger bolt. It is in there very tight. You can center it perfectly. It bolts toward the edge ya, but nowhere where it would be a problem. You also have 3 inches to play with height wise so I guess I still don't understand why use mounting hardware. I can see using hardware if you are running both h/e's, but with just one...I feel its unnecessary. But you are right in saying its preference. You'll are doing a great price on the kit if people are looking for the whole kit.

 

I would like to see what zoomer has to offer! hopefully it is tomorrow cause im ordering soon

 

Subscribed for later..

 

Still waiting to see what kind of deal zoomer is going to cut............

 

lol. this is mostly cause of me. i pm'd you a while ago when u were selling your small cx h/e for over $300. then you pm'd me and said the lowest you could do is $295 shipped. then i was like forget it. then you were like

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fine lowest i can go is $280 shipped or else i am loosing money.

then i notice it is $275 on your site. NOW it's $240???

also you told me to write somewhere if i could do the big cx h/e or small one like your's for less than $199 bucks all said and done. shipping, taxes, and installed and i did it for way less. just wanted to let u know. you never responded back to my pm when i showed you i did it for less than $200 with spare money. you also told me your L brackets were custom made and i found ones at home depot that were just the same.

i hate to say this but i'd go with zoomer. i mean i had there zzp catless dp break one me at the flex part but maybe they have changed since then?

i still can't believe ott made the price to $240 now all because of me and the people who followed or started to read what i said. also i know there was a few others before me who did it by them self.

used to be over $300 fast98 now u dropped price to $280 u told me you could do best now $275. AND NOW $240?

thought u told me the best you could do was $280 shipped?

well fella's i tell you there are 3 how to guides now how to do the cx h/e with no cutting and supper simple easy instructions. mine has some cutting involved b/c i kept the stock h/e because i live in jersey and 3/4 of the year it is cold so the extra coolant and drop in temp doesn't hurt my car. also the whole too much coolant thing not true for me.

3- HOW TO GUIDES IN how to guide section ON HOW TO INSTALL BIG CX H/E!! one on ebay

also in my sig my how to guide of how to install big cx h/e on ebay. the other one flash put up is even better than mine!

 

Sorry Fast but im with Bodnar here. Your kit is over priced. The CXR h/e is $175 plus 15 dollars for heater hose, clamps, and the bolts. I still cant understand why you recommend the stock h/e delete, but you sell all the mounting hardware as if you were going to mount it in front of all three....Please inform me

 

Im not ragging on OTT or fast or lsjwannabe, but im trying to help out alot of people and save them money, time, and effort.

 

i will say 280 was abit much but 240 inst to bad at all , 75 bucks inst a bad price for pre made brackets and all the supplies needed for install. you may be better off just selling a hardware kit thou ...lol and maybe not weld the brackets to decrees production cost , in most cases a bend is stronger than a weld, i know aluminum has a tendency to crack or become weak when bent so i can understand your preference for the weld.

im rocking the sma...not so huge cx/racing .


my $12 coldrooled steel brackets i made with a well planted vise and lot of elbow grease.if i didnt have drill press and tools needed ,i would have gladly paid the extra 75 for the one from OTTP.





becasue the aftermarket H/E is a complety diffrent shape than the stock on , and about 2-3" thicker , and just simply wont fit were the stock one mounts.

 

oooo let me know when you do,

i'm in need one one

 

I dont think you have done your research. Check out my how to in my sig. I mounted the CXR one ( even the bigger one) and it fits w/o cutting or brackets.

 

not really i figurer labor is 50bucks an HR and the man has to make a profit , so its not an unreasonable price i see 170 for his H/e about 20 in parts and the rest it labor. hes only making like a 23% profit. if this was a big compney and he was selling lots id thro up a red flag , but since im guessing he not selling alot of them , so hes gotta make it worth his wild one way or another. if it was me and i was making less than 50 bucks a sale i wouldn't even bother, its alot of hassle to go buy the supplies , make the stuff , and get it shipped out.

if you don't want to fuss with making your hardware and such the extra cash is a small price to pay. you can expect him to give them away , its a businesses not a charity


just because i didn't read your preferred method for install doesn't mean i didn't do my research, maybe has something to do with the fact i installed my H/E 4 months before you did your write up, and therefore had no need to "research" it further.

seems like a lot of work, but whatever floats your boat. id rather just use the smaller he and drill 2 holes and be done with it. but i guess if you plain to remove the stock h/e its a good idea.

but sense hes selling the smaller h/e that doesn't require "hacking" , it seems easer to just use brackets to hang it , and you can still remove the stock h/e without having to relocate anything, plus alittle airflow behind the h/e probably don't hurt things aether.

 

funny when he told me $295 shipped he said that was his best then i sent fast98 another pm saying i guess it's ebay cx h/e then. then he pm'd me back and said fine best i can do is $280. i said why the sudden decrease in price now? he said basically what you said. then i said dude why wouldn't you tell me that price before why did you said $295 was the lowest and then now $280. so i sent him another pm and said what is the lowest you can really do now? and then he said thats it $280.

and i am not trying to bash you or him or any vendor. i have pm'd people and said props to some of the products you have and linked them to you and said buy from there it's the cheapest. i just want people to get a good deal and if there is a better way to get it done for cheaper or what i think is better i am trying to offer it to fellow css.net memebers.

fast98 even said in a pm to me a while ago if i can get it on ebay and mounted for all said and done for less than $200 bucks he would give me props and think it's good. just not as good as your brackets. i said thanks and wish me luck. once i was done i pm'd him and showed him how i did it and said i got it done for less than $200. so i am not trying to bash him at all.

i have even talked to you in pm's and you were nice and on aim that one night. u even said i am going the cheap way sometimes but if i get 300whp that's not all that bad. just get a wideband and make sure i am running safe. which i am getting aem wideband.

this would be bashing(a pm i got earlier which i told the guy i put my big cx h/e on from ebay for less than $199 bucks...

 

so, are you saying that instead of leaving the gap, you smashed the two together. why not leave a little space, better airflow. couldn't hurt.

 

i know for my case i live in new jersey where it is cold 3/4 of the year and running the stock h/e and cx h/e for me is better. in the winter it will rock. proven by my friend. in the winter running both works extremely well for him also another member on here idk where he lives but running both he got lower iat's

 

I think he did space it out.. the 1 inch spacer... so more or less you have the rad, then the ac, then a spacer of 1 inch then the HE... (hope i understood what he said correctly) if i'm wrong please let me know.

Thanks

 

i got a question for you. if you run both stock h/e and big cx h/e. and live in a cold area wouldn't you say it benefits from both? i just want to hear what you have to say about that.

thanks

 

its funny, its not much cheaper to just buy the H/E
150 for the h/e via ebay
25 for shipping
20-30 for misc parts
total
$195-205

240 for the ott isnt to bad depending on shipping.