I swapped tb and tried to start car all tubing in place, I could hear it actuating, now nothing with either tb, I'm sure cps sensor is in right n no haven't followed harness to maf, I followed it clear up to the ECM

 

Edit....never mind this paragraph

 

So you didn't follow the harness all the way to the maf.....means you didn't go over all your wiring

What else did you not check.......help us help you

 

WTF!! Car is completely off key out of ignition and the ******* radiator fans are going?!

 

Excuse my ignorance sorry, I'm doing it as we speak

 

It's cylinder number 4 at TDC!

 

That happened to me before, check harness connection by the fuse box. Make sure it's pushed together

 

It's plugged in right I'm taking the wheel well off to get to the maf n check wires there

 

You sure mine looked plugged in but still wasn't making a good connection. It caused the fans to stay on all the time even when i turned the car off theyd still go for a few mintues and my ait2s on the interceptor were reading 65642 or something ridiculously high.

 

Ok let me recheck it

 

Ok I unplugged it and plugged it back in now the fans won't shut off at all

 

You unplugged and replugged the same point of the harness I was pointing to in the picture.? And I hate to sound like a broken record but check you fuses and see if any popped. Also could be a bad fan relay? If you pull the relay the fans will stop, but I doubt it's the relay causing it.

What is the engine temp reading?

 

Yes same point in harness, swapped RDFG relay with fan relay still does it only way to stop it disconnect battery, checked fuses all seem ok, n engine coolant temp is 62*

 

If you leave the fan relays out they will stop, but that's only a bandaid to the problem. Could be PCM related, but I'd look over that harness real good before attacking the PCM. Try cleaning up the connections at the PCM as well. Gotta go to sleep have work early in the morning. I'm on the east coast. Hope you figure it out by the time I check this thread tomorrow morning. If not ill keep putting in my two cents

 

Thanks for the help, I'm going to clean all the connections and go from there

 

Ok, so its running, the bottom PCM connector (black one) was dirty as heck, sprayed some contact cleaner on it and replaced the little rubber seal and she started right up, not a single issue. I feel so stupid but I really appreciate the help guys, it means alot.

 

Awesome!

 

Yea you don't know how happy I am

 

Told You in the third post in this thread to check the PCM in front of the fusebox. Could have saved you a lot of headaches if you would have tried that first

 

I checked it, but I never removed it to check the pins, but you're completely right.

 

Told you to unplug it to clear the engine disabled code when you unplugged it you could have seen the pins dirty. So far that's all I've read to clear that code. Glad you got it fixed though

 

Unfortunately the diagram is incorrect
It puts it at 180* out

 

Good to know ill keep that in mind if i ever have to change one

 

Hey guys i got the same problem but i replace the sensors and CEL is still on ,the codes keep coming up p0017 & p0341 i checked the PCM connection was cleaned dealer said it was timing chain failure but 2 other mechanic says my car run smooth and no rattle its impossible to be the chain (80k miles ) on the engine, i got it done to the firestone and spend $415 CEL is on i dont wanna waste no money !! HELP PLS!!

ballin on the budget!!

 

unfortunately you are incorrect the diagram is correct you put #4 tdc comp stroke line up the marks and it doesn't not put it 180 out the build book is incorrect also



your diagram is correct