im looking to get a h/e pretty soon and whats one that everyone seems to love? and also what is the main difference with the s1 s2 and s3 from zzp? and do you need a specific amount of mods or power to have an s3 or something. please help!!

 

More cooling the better, putting a HE on a stock car wouldn't hurt it at all. Stage 3 is lighter and more efficient than the other stages along with holding more fluid. If your not on a budget OTTP Griffin HE is supposed to the the shiz.

Joel

 

my secondary was simple and cheap but works well for me, Cobra HE, but I do have dual pass and opt B,
My m62 is pretty cold after a long trip you can rest your hand right on it.

 

i got the griffin h/e with dual pass and opt b and also going to be running methanol thru it to make sure the charger is cool and not burning up

 

so the zzp s3 is the best one under the griffin? and i only have a catless dp and CAI on now but i will have headers, new muffler and maybe some small stuff for the engine so would it matter what size stage i get or can i just go get the s3 and throw it on?

 

Yea, I'd say it is. Mine works great. You can throw any cooling you want on, like I said the more the better.

Are you going to pulley down at all?

Joel

 

Our stage 1 unit uses the same style core as their stage 3, just our stage 1 is slightly bigger and alot cheaper. Everyone seems to like our unit so I would ask around about our gen 4 heat exchanger

 

get the griffen that ottp sells, anything else your better off staying stock

 

this is a question... zzp all the way if you know whats good for you

 

I went with the ZZP stage one HE. I highly recommend a bigger one. My M62 is almost to hot to touch after a couple pulls, or a drive around town. Get the S3 and be done with it.

 

Either get the Stage 3 or Griffen, go big and do it once as the guy above said.

How very ignorant and uninformitave. Thank you.

Joel

 

ok sweet and im going with the s3. its only 200 somethin bucks and its worth it. if its close to the griffin id rather save myself 300 bucks. and yes joel im going to pulley everything once all my cooling mods are put in.

 

I switched from a S3 to the Griff and see almost a ten degree improvement.

 

Its not close to the griffin at all.

 

i personally have the ZZP S3 heat exchanger, thats my olny cooling mod on my 2.8
i can make a couple runs and immediately touch the SC and not burn my hand. i plan on getting option B in good time though.

and no offense to OTTP or anything, but shipping will be faster with ZZP.

 

I had contrary experiences, ZZP wanted pictures of my drivers license before they would ship to me. 6, 1. Half dozen the other.

Joel

 

What heat exchanger you have has no effect on how hot or cold your supercharger will be.

Also we have both heat exchangers in stock and they will ship the same day if you order by noon.

 

Both ZZP and OTTP make quality H/E. I am also running a ZZP S3 H/E with a 2.8 with more cooling mods planned before track season.

Best of luck in what you choose.

 

i had a feeling that the bigger the heat exchanger, the cooler the temps, but i guess that would be a cooler intake manifold though.

on a side note i did by my stage 2 kit from OTTP

 

100% correct. The heat exchanger (well actually the whole air-water intercooler system) cools the air after the blower, not before it.

 

if the zzp s3 cools around the same as the griffin with only a ten degree difference its gonna be worth saving the 300 dollars and then just throw the dual pass in and all. thanks for the help tho guys!!!

 

the zzp does not cool the same as the griffen

and 10 degrees is the difference between losing several degrees of timing, timing is worth 1-3hp per degree

but if you dont want to pay then your not going to have as much fun playing

 

^^^and that my friends is why i spent the extra

 

If you understand what a h/e does, that's all the reason you need to spend the extra!