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Old 08-02-2009, 01:19 AM
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Hmm...Meth ... maybe so

Alright since day one.. meth has scared me..the idea of running washer fluid through my block always made me think.. thats retarded..but recently.. ive been warming up to the idea.. ive had a few people really talkin me into it..and i know if im tuned for it i can get more timing and have better numbers on my TVS so im thinkin.. is devils own the best deal out there? i was thinkin about the base kit from OTTP...it always worried me that if a nozzle failed that id be fucked but i can keep an eye on my wideband to see if i lean out..so if something were to fail..such as a nozzle? how do i unclog it.. or keep it from failing again? any information that you have on meth u can feel free to throw up here..whether they be technical stories or horror stories ... i wanna hear it all
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dont use washer fluid. get you a 5 gallon gas can(i used a yellow one) and go buy 5 gallons of meth at a time and just make your own mixture of meth/water. i had a 2.5 gallon tank put in my car so i just mix it by the quart so its a 50/50 mix. you can use washer fluid but mixing it yourself is better. and theres really no way for it to clog unless somehow you get a **** ton of dirt in your tank. just always make sure you get the cap on good. and if the fitting is installed correctly theres pretty much no way it would blow out because the pressure really isnt that high.
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where do u get ur meth at by chance? and do i just mix it with cold water.. to a 50/50 mix? or should i go.. say.. 60/40 meth to water?
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i've never heard of a nozzle getting clogged. There is a small filter on the nozzle but i doubt it will ever get clogged. Thats not what u should be worried about. Main thing u should be worried about is having your tank running empty...that can cause major issues. With a tvs, h/e, 2 step colder plugs, cai u can go past 24* of timing...people say the lsj doesnt like to make power past 25* but oh well. Meth is pretty safe. I've had it in my car since the past winter...never had a issue with it. If for some reason the pump or nozzle or something else does fail. You should be able to notice it, whether it be from the wideband or just how the car feels. If that does happen, just dont go WOT.
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yeah i have the OTTP h/e, k&n intake, and full exhaust..im thinkin that the 2.9 pulley might really like the meth..if ur tuned for meth.. is it running constantly? or only when ur WOT?
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same as bwalker said. don't use washer fluid unless you absolutely have to.

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yeah i have the OTTP h/e, k&n intake, and full exhaust..im thinkin that the 2.9 pulley might really like the meth..if ur tuned for meth.. is it running constantly? or only when ur WOT?
not sure about devils own, i'm gonna guess its the same. but on the AIS pump, not the progressive. but on the pump itself is a knob you turn with an allen key, and that will turn the pump on at Xpsi, and then you tune from there up

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where do u get ur meth at by chance? and do i just mix it with cold water.. to a 50/50 mix? or should i go.. say.. 60/40 meth to water?
i buy my meth from the guy thats tunes my car. it shouldnt cost you more than 4-5 dollars a gallon and usually its cheaper. mixing it yourself is so much better than wiper fluid. it dosent matter if the water is cold or warm.your worst enemy with meth as Snakes709 said, is your tank running empty. thats why i went with a 2.5 gallon trunk mount tank. it last a long ass time. but if you go with the typical 2-4 quart under the hood tank, just get you a good rubber sealed 1 gallon container and keep it in your trunk incase this problem should arise.
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the devils own kil comes with a controller so it comes on to what ever psi u set it too...mine comes on at 8psi and it is full squirting at 14psi....not that it really matters with the supercharger cuz i get 21psi of boost in less then a second..lol. So in other words the meth only comes on when im giving about 75% throttle and squirtting fully when im wot. i wanna try and wire up a gas gauge to the tank so i can always see in the car how much meth i have left without having to look in the trunk every few days.
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
same as bwalker said. don't use washer fluid unless you absolutely have to.



not sure about devils own, i'm gonna guess its the same. but on the AIS pump, not the progressive. but on the pump itself is a knob you turn with an allen key, and that will turn the pump on at Xpsi, and then you tune from there up
the AIS pump...is that the one that comes with the sno performance kit? cuiz i was also looking at that.. and if u can have set at a certain psi i may be gettin this real soon..

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the devils own kil comes with a controller so it comes on to what ever psi u set it too...mine comes on at 8psi and it is full squirting at 14psi....not that it really matters with the supercharger cuz i get 21psi of boost in less then a second..lol. So in other words the meth only comes on when im giving about 75% throttle and squirtting fully when im wot. i wanna try and wire up a gas gauge to the tank so i can always see in the car how much meth i have left without having to look in the trunk every few days.
awesome.. so uve never had any hick ups or anything with the devils own base kit? im leanin towards this kit... also did u just tap into your intake to install the nozzle? i kinda wanted to get the tapped throttle body OTTp offers as well..might make things a little better

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i buy my meth from the guy thats tunes my car. it shouldnt cost you more than 4-5 dollars a gallon and usually its cheaper. mixing it yourself is so much better than wiper fluid. it dosent matter if the water is cold or warm.your worst enemy with meth as Snakes709 said, is your tank running empty. thats why i went with a 2.5 gallon trunk mount tank. it last a long ass time. but if you go with the typical 2-4 quart under the hood tank, just get you a good rubber sealed 1 gallon container and keep it in your trunk incase this problem should arise.
so did u just mount a 2 gallon tank and run a line from the tank to ur pump?

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meth is a must with the tvs...well not a must but if u want good power, then u need it. I had the 3gph nozzle with my stage 2 kit then when i did the tvs i changed it to the 7gph nozzle. When me and the guy that tuned my car were tuning/driving we were amazed that we didnt see any knock at all...even at 24* of timing on a 30*C day. Doing pull after pull on the highway...IAT2 only got to 140* max. I'm also running 75meth/25water.

Only issue i had is my pump came loose in the trunk...bounced around which caused one of the lines to keep shooting off spraying meth in my trunk. And yes i did tap into my intake...didnt want to but i bought the wrong spacer...got the one from cobalt addiction...was told it would fit the devils own kits but its only ment for snow performance kits
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Originally Posted by Snakes709
meth is a must with the tvs...well not a must but if u want good power, then u need it. I had the 3gph nozzle with my stage 2 kit then when i did the tvs i changed it to the 7gph nozzle. When me and the guy that tuned my car were tuning/driving we were amazed that we didnt see any knock at all...even at 24* of timing on a 30*C day. Doing pull after pull on the highway...IAT2 only got to 140* max. I'm also running 75meth/25water.

Only issue i had is my pump came loose in the trunk...bounced around which caused one of the lines to keep shooting off spraying meth in my trunk. And yes i did tap into my intake...didnt want to but i bought the wrong spacer...got the one from cobalt addiction...was told it would fit the devils own kits but its only ment for snow performance kits
thats impressive..im really likin my setup right now with 2.9 pulley but im thinkin....that it just may have a ton of potential with a meth setup..
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wow 75/25. did you have any issues at all with that mix. im thread jacking
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also..when i go to buy meth...do i just buy straight methanol? i have no clue where to even look for it.. maybe speedway will have it lol .. no? didnt think so..

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wow 75/25. did you have any issues at all with that mix. im thread jacking
hey ur questions are my answers lol no thread jacking in that.. i couldnt be anymore in need of answers about this **** lol

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yeah just straight methanol. any performance shop will have it or even race tracks sell it sometimes.
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oh it will. i couldnt even think how the tvs would run without meth, let alone with a 2.9 pulley. You can get alot more power if u have meth. And it will be alot safer. As long as u keep the tank full well not full but dont let the tank go empty...otherwise u will have big issues if u try and go WOT. I get my meth from Canadian Tire...its called Methanal Hydrate...ment for stripping crap off of wood on a deck outside or whatever and then i just buy distilled water from a drugstore. And no i have not had any issues running 75/25. Only reason u put water in it is because meth is flamable....water helps dilute it so it wont be so flamable...even 75/25 is safe...some people even run straight 100% meth.
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75/25 shouldn't cause problems. i'm running a 90/10@10gph without problems. just make sure you use distilled water, and filter both the water and methanol while pouring it into the tank.

and snakes. the problem wasn't with the spacer. it was with the nozzle. tb spacers are designed for an outside mount nozzle. if you tap into the intake you should be using an inside mount nozzle unless you want to be spraying right into the threads of the npt nut
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Originally Posted by Snakes709
oh it will. i couldnt even think how the tvs would run without meth, let alone with a 2.9 pulley. You can get alot more power if u have meth. And it will be alot safer. As long as u keep the tank full well not full but dont let the tank go empty...otherwise u will have big issues if u try and go WOT
yeah ima have to focus on staying on top of that.. if u figure out a way to read how much u have left on a gauge without having to get in ur trunk lemme know..thatd be a hell of a convenience...what are the benefits of mixing it 75 meth and 25 water? cooler temps and better timing?
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hmm i wonder how much whp i could pick up on a stronger mixture like 75/25.
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from what im gettin out of this.. apparently quite a bit..and 90/10 mix is a pretty strong dosage lol
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yup...get more of the meth (cooler temps/better timing).

And to answer to what EXsoccer said, yea i understand that now...didnt when i orderd the part...was at my mechanics shop doing the install/tuning when i found that out so i just said **** it and tapped the intake
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so u think its better to tap the intake or have a tapped throttle body spacer?
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yeah its really not the big of a deal
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what u got to remember is...what u want your meth to be set up for (psi it turns on and the ratio mix of meth/water) once u tune it...u cant change it unless u tune it again. If you try to its going to mess the afr up.
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Originally Posted by 06_SIC_SS
so u think its better to tap the intake or have a tapped throttle body spacer?
personally. i would do a spacer.
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id really like it turn on around 10 psi and be fully spraying around 14 like u have it..and im thinkin i might wanna pick up the throttle body spacer thats tapped..seems safer than tappin into my intake


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