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Old 07-25-2006, 01:47 PM
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Install pics and directions for the SnowPerformance kit, Now w/track results

Here is a link to the 'BETA' install pictures and directions. Any questions feel free to ask. I will be going to the track tonight in high temps to do some testing. Will post later. So far i am VERY satisfied with this kit!!
Rob

http://hoosierperformance.com/uploads/SnowInstall.doc


If that one doesn't work try this one and click on the appropriate tab,

http://hoosierperformance.com/uploads/SnowInstall.doc

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if theres pics they dont work for me
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nice.
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they all worked for me on the first link
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Originally Posted by John
if theres pics they dont work for me
You need to have Microsoft Office on your computer because they are WORD files.

Nice write up bro. Thanks for taking the time.
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Nice write up
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Looks awesome Rob! Hey, off topic, was it difficult to install the MAF from the LT1 to get it to work properly with the PCM?
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Good Luck Rob...been sooo busy havent had a chance to call u like I been meaning to.
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Looks awesome Rob! Hey, off topic, was it difficult to install the MAF from the LT1 to get it to work properly with the PCM?
No, it was quite easy. Stock MAFF table was real close. Just some minor tweaks.
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I get directions but no pictures, I don't have office. Can't wait to hear your results from the track tonight. Be sure to post your thought's good or bad.
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Good write up.
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Originally Posted by FAST06SS
No, it was quite easy. Stock MAFF table was real close. Just some minor tweaks.
Awesome...I need that and your tune :-\

w/o the water injection of course
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Good write up,

Just wondering what damage if any can from installing water injection?
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Good write up,

Just wondering what damage if any can come from installing water injection?
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none if the car's engine is up to operating temps. I know that misting water into the air drops temps as much as 20* in normal outside conditions (100* out, low humidity) Now with that happening in the intake it might be as much as 40 or more. What's the verdict on intake temps lowering man?
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Nooo i cant see it!!!
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Just made 3 passes at the track, 86deg, DA 3340ft !! 2.0 60's went 13.2 13.0.13.3 at 106-107. All my buddies cars were off about .2-.3 and 2-3 mph as well.

Good news was how the WI worked Starting IAT2 was 118 each pass and each pass ended at 154, only a 36 degree rise on a STOCK IC set-up! Now add a second HE and i can see maybe 15-20 degree total rise. On these SC's that is INCREDIBLE!

92octane gas, 18-19psi boost, 24-25deg timing and no KR! Simply awesome!!
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Originally Posted by FAST06SS
Good news was how the WI worked Starting IAT2 was 118 each pass and each pass ended at 154, only a 36 degree rise on a STOCK IC set-up! Now add a second HE and i can see maybe 15-20 degree total rise. On these SC's that is INCREDIBLE!
Rob, those results are awesome! What were your IAT1s?

Do you think it is possible to really get the IAT2 below IAT1 with water injection, big second HE (guessing 30 degree drop), ice box with dry ice and DEI Chill Charger (do 50/50 mix of this with dex-cool)?
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what kind of HP gains will it give?
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What track do you go to that is open on a Tuesday? All the ones here in Central IL are only open on the weekends. I was just wondering if it was sort of close.
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Originally Posted by FAST06SS
Just made 3 passes at the track, 86deg, DA 3340ft !! 2.0 60's went 13.2 13.0.13.3 at 106-107. All my buddies cars were off about .2-.3 and 2-3 mph as well.

Good news was how the WI worked Starting IAT2 was 118 each pass and each pass ended at 154, only a 36 degree rise on a STOCK IC set-up! Now add a second HE and i can see maybe 15-20 degree total rise. On these SC's that is INCREDIBLE!

92octane gas, 18-19psi boost, 24-25deg timing and no KR! Simply awesome!!

AWESOME RESULTS.
You can run a race gas tune without the need for race gas and no more replacing stock o2 sensors from lead contamination every time at the track. Great news....
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Rob, those results are awesome! What were your IAT1s?

Do you think it is possible to really get the IAT2 below IAT1 with water injection, big second HE (guessing 30 degree drop), ice box with dry ice and DEI Chill Charger (do 50/50 mix of this with dex-cool)?
Maybe if you ran with a 3.4" pulley. Seriously though, i can't see it happening as we are pushing these blowers pretty hard. I think if you can keep it under 150 at IAT2 you will have achieved a very good working system. That is during the summer time. Winter it will be much easier of course. I did do a test tonight. I left the track and went to my shop and installed a custom second heat exchanger. It is very similar to the Cobra HE.

Anyways here is some preliminary data, Iat2 went from 108 to 127 almost a full 1/4 mile pass! Here is the crazy part, With HPTuners there is a time stamp while logging. I compared this pass to the one at the track where i went 13.2. Comparing 50 - 96mph times, the earlier pass was Iat2 118deg to 147@96 and it took 7.7secs

The pass with the 2nd HE started at 108 and was at 127@96 mph and it 6.6secs to go from 50-96mph!! A FULL SECOND quicker!!! You could feel it as well in the butt dyno



Whereis this all going?? Adding water injection and a second HE is a SOLID foundation for running a stout set-up on pump gas.

My next expierment is turning the IC into a double pass instead of a single pass. Got the parts, just need to find the time.

Rob
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Excellent write up .
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Originally Posted by automobiliben
What track do you go to that is open on a Tuesday? All the ones here in Central IL are only open on the weekends. I was just wondering if it was sort of close.
indianapolis raceway park is open on tuesday nights.
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We spray after the blower with centrifugal blowers and Roots/PD blowers and turbos. You CANT spray before the blower on these car's because the meth will not atomize properly, nor will it be in boost so the hot temps will not drop as they should.

You want to tap the manifold/below the blower for this to work properly...this will also keep the meth off the blower rotors.

To run meth properly under the blower, you need an upgraded solenoid from snow. Because manifolds, or anywhere after a TB has vacuum, it will suck the meth into the intake at idle, etc. The upgraded solenoid prevents the meth from being sucked into the engine while running under vac. conditions

The gains of spraying after, rather than where this is spraying will be HUGE! Add extra tuning with meth and watch for mega gains. There will be no need for a second HE or anything like that.


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