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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Last time I checked a myth is something fictional that does not exist. Believe it or not running cars do exist with a 2.8"...Therefore it is not a myth. The RIU/PS kits have been around since July of last year. No one has blown up with one there for it is a proven mod. And since you can run a 2.8 with a piggyback it must also be possible to run it if you had the pcm code because you'd have even more control over the car.

Stock fuel system yes...stock engine management no

Dan

O yeah I made some popcorn if anyone else wants some lol

Hope they dont lock this...there is actually good info in it.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Please ask where I told you to tell me that you fixed a car for SEMA? The only thing I'm asking from you, is to prove the theory of how safe it is to run a 2.8" pulley on a stock fuel system, which I've yet to see any proof that it's safe.

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So are you BETTER than GM? Because even GM uses bigger injectors just to go to a 3.1" pulley. Wow, look at that, even GM uses bigger injectors and then tunes them in! Man, you must know more than GM, because otherwise they'd be using a fuel rail with secondary injectors!


There you go. You asked

GO here then go to page 158 and see me there.

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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we have sold over 180 kits last year alone. and no issues

i had one issue with a car this week due to missfire but that was because the customer forgot to regao his plugs. he reggaped them and car is 100% many of our customers have ran 13.8's on stock tires
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by djt81185
Last time I checked a myth is something fictional that does not exist. Believe it or not running cars do exist with a 2.8"...Therefore it is not a myth. The RIU/PS kits have been around since July of last year. No one has blown up with one there for it is a proven mod. And since you can run a 2.8 with a piggyback it must also be possible to run it if you had the pcm code because you'd have even more control over the car.

Stock fuel system yes...stock engine management no

Dan

O yeah I made some popcorn if anyone else wants some lol

Hope they dont lock this...there is actually good info in it.

I agree, I don't want this to get locked. What I would like to see is SCAN DATA. I want to see Injector Pulse Width, and Injector Duty Cycle of these cars running 2.8" pulley's on stock injectors. Does anyone have any scan logs? Seeing scan logs would put this to rest, since that's the only REAL PROOF that it's safe to run a 2.8" on a stock fuel system.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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So are you BETTER than GM? Because even GM uses bigger injectors just to go to a 3.1" pulley. Wow, look at that, even GM uses bigger injectors and then tunes them in! Man, you must know more than GM, because otherwise they'd be using a fuel rail with secondary injectors!


There you go. You asked
Oh, ok. I just want to clarify that you think you're better than GM. I also want to clarify that you have no track times, or dyno numbers on your twincharged LSJ.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Oh, ok. I just want to clarify that you think you're better than GM. I also want to clarify that you have no track times, or dyno numbers on your twincharged LSJ.

i think its because the closest track thats opened is about 500 mi from his house due to weather. and yes there are dyno numbers available he will share if he feels like it.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Yeah why don't you post data logs of the Intense kits that you installed and tuned. Specifically low load WOT datalogs of the intense kit in regards to knock.

I can tell you this much. If I post a log of my twincharged car it would look just like a stock car
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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RevIt Up gets their dyno next week. Once it is up and dialed in, there will be dyno graphs on everything and anything. As soon as the tracks open up then the numbers will go up. The RL will not be made into a track car because I have a SRT4 for a track car and intend on using it as such. I drive the RL as a daily driver.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Twincharged
Yeah why don't you post data logs of the Intense kits that you installed and tuned. Specifically low load WOT datalogs of the intense kit in regards to knock.

I can tell you this much. If I post a log of my twincharged car it would look just like a stock car
To bad you don't live closer as i have no way to print this data out from my aeroforce gauge and wideband. I can tell you this though, 2.7" pulley, NO again NO KR!!! 17-19deg timing, maff is hitting 9100Hz, PW is at 16Ms. What else do you want?????


We dyno'd my car, posted the dyno sheet! I garantee you it's over 280HP to the wheels now but i'm not going to dyno it again until i get rid of the STOCK air intake!

Oh yea, Fuel trims, + or - 2 Go fish
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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To bad you don't live closer as i have no way to print this data out from my aeroforce gauge and wideband. I can tell you this though, 2.7" pulley, NO again NO KR!!! 17-19deg timing, maff is hitting 9100Hz, PW is at 16Ms. What else do you want?????


We dyno'd my car, posted the dyno sheet! I garantee you it's over 280HP to the wheels now but i'm not going to dyno it again until i get rid of the STOCK air intake!

Oh yea, Fuel trims, + or - 2 Go fish

But what was the stock Cobalt SS/SC dyno numbers? 230whp?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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sounds like dyno tunes dyno jet numbers, i remember reading once about a grand prix gtp that raced another gtp, they both dynoed the same whp but one was at dyno tune and the other one was elsewhere. the car that was dynoed elsewhere trapped like 4mph higher
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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how about some time slips
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ray@revitup
how about some time slips
Working on it! As your crony stated, it is winter time and everything is closed.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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I think the only way this can be settle is on an episode of Pinks
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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I think the only way this can be settle is on an episode of Pinks
The Intense Drag Day is comming up. That would be a great time to solve it, lol. I'd probably make a trip to Norwalk for that.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Has to be a neutral site.

Best 3 out of 5 guys?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zinner
Has to be a neutral site.

Best 3 out of 5 guys?
Ohio is neutral, Bad06SS is from Indian and Twincharged is in Pennsylvania.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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I would hardly call "Intense Drag Day" a neutral site.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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i think some of the intense customers should post up their times, i could care less about my own car, i radther my customers put up good times. i think that would be more neutral our customers vs theirs
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Bolt me up some drag radials and I'm in for Revitup baby.
Joe

Hey ray I'll see ya saturday.
Thanks for calling me this morning. Great customer service.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JAESS
Bolt me up some drag radials and I'm in for Revitup baby.
Joe

Hey ray I'll see ya saturday.
Thanks for calling me this morning. Great customer service.
no problem ill be there all night putting together a turbo kit
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Thumbs up

Ray i may be in for stage one and 2 soon REV IT UP STYLE
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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I recieved my Intense kit today! Very nice looking! Can't wait to install it on the car!
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Me and blueone will compete to see which kit is faster delaware boys
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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wow, NO WAY i just ready EVERY SINGLE PAGE!!!!! I'm gunna take a break, from "taking a break". I think after reading this whole thing, i went backwards in my search for the "BEST KIT" For me, Its not the $$$, exactly (Tho a slight factor) but who's gunna put up the best #'s with room for still upgrading / WHILE being safe for the LSJ. at least the most safe. for example, My Brain = Spam i love doing that!

I gues being that i have another month B 4 i actually get the SS S/C, so i suppose i'll wait till some #'s show up!

-BTW.... If your guys did it up on PINKS You guys would be responsable for bringing ALOT of GOOD PRESS for the Cobalt!
" TONIGHT ON PINKS, TWO COABLT TUNERS GO AT IT FOR THE CLAIM TO THE BETTER PERFORMANCE KIT"

just my $.02 either way, you guys both have madd props from me for at least tryin! Keep up the GREAT work!
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