Ok guys .. Idk if anyone has tried to talk to kenne bell about doing a twin screw set up for our cars .. so I took the liberty and got shot down of course .. but heres what i told them

We are not going to do anything for the Cobalt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Moore
To: kennebell@kennebell.net
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Twin Screw for Chevrolet Cobalt


As you probably know, the LSJ engine in the 05-07 Chevrolet Cobalt SS is supercharged. From the factory it comes with an Eaton M62. Once you go below a 2.7" pulley the Eaton creates so much heat it kills the engine. Myself and probably a few thousand others are in the market for a twin screw application. So basically what I am getting to is this, would you be interested in supplying a Twin Screw kit for the Cobalt?

 

That was a shot in the dark but at least you tried. The problem is that they don't want to lose any of their current customer base by venturing to other markets (Not a good idea for the long run, but alot of companies do this).

 

It doesn't help with all the speculation of the SC Cobalt disappearing after 2007. Who really wants to support mods on a car that lasted 3 years (not saying they are gone for sure, but that's what it looks like).

 

but they aren't the only ones doing the twin screw blowers.

odds are the thought of manufacturing a new blower for a cobalt has crossed their mind, and its likely your email is one of many; however, if you are writing a proposal, or suggestion like what you did, you would have tremendously better luck with a more formal, organized, logicaly flowing and easy to understand letter, not several tid bits of info crammed into one paragraph.

Give it time, someone will make one.

look at the market for 86-87 buick grand nationals. chevy probably made as many ss cobalts in one quarter as buick made in 2 years, and the aftermarket for them is huge. Doesn't hurt that they have TONS of potential.

the ls1 camaros lasted 4 years, look at their aftermarket.

give it time...

 

Lol, I knew someone would bring up the Grand Nationals. I love those cars.

I just don't think ours will necessarily be remembered if they do end up going to Turbo. I am not a big Turbo fan and enjoy the torque and flatter curve that we enjoy, but I do realize people will put all their stock on a Turbo that is rated higher in HP (even if it is a peak number that leads to similar quarter mile times). It really all depends on what GM does next...

 

^ Good try, it always is worth a shot.

 

Well at least I tried .. where is your formal letter asking a company to help us out? Huh?

 

^^^ he is just saying you may have more success w/ a formal request. thanks for the attempt, hopefully we will get something like this one day.

 

Whipple said the exact same thing when i emailed them about to a twinscrew kit.

 

what you guys need to realize is that this car is still new in terms of the aftermarket. Traditionally cars don't see huge aftermarket support until they are strong on the used car market because the average person doesn't buy a new car and swap the power adder. However more people in the used car market are likely to do that. We will see a twin screw swap someday and it's probably sooner rather then later. Rather then relying on a company like KB to do it we will have to have a vendor who is willing to by a KB charger and fabricate the manifold. This is really how smaller less known companies make a name for themselves.

Right now there are two companies working on twin screws for our cars, whether or not it happens is yet to be seen but atleast they are trying.

Don't let responses like that from KB get you down about this car, the aftermarket is strong for this car considering it's in it's third model year and it will only grow. The limited production run will not hurt the aftermarket support because even cars with long runs often have key changes to the ECU, engine, or other parts that require completely new developement. So if the demand for aftermarket support is there, which it is with the cobalt, then the companies will follow. Just hang tight, good things are coming and when a twin screw does happen it will open up a completely new can of worms for this car.

 

I've owned 2 turbo buicks and TORQUE/flat power band is what they have. Have you ever launched one I'm not going to make this into a sc vs tc debate, but you can make plenty of torque with a tc. The other thing is like stated before, they are too new. Once they've been around a little longer things will come out. They are so expensive yet that a lot of the people who buy them can't afford big mods like that yet so the aftermarket seems to be steering away till the price comes down.

 

have you ever launched a n/a 4-banger and a n/a v6? just a lil difference i do agree with you though we have a very strong aftermarket considering how new our cars are! we have already learned a lot and will only continue to learn more and be able to build faster, more reliable setups.

 

I really don't understand kenne bell. The only non-v8 i can remember them EVER creating a setup for was a jeep. Can't remember which one, but come on. There is a huge market in v6's and some 4 cylinders, but they just don't seem to want in.

 

ellos tienen cabezas grandes!

 

kenne Bell is more of a marketer -- they don't make all the products they sell (and if they do there aren't many). I remember when the T-Types, GNs, and GNXs came out there weren't very many parts for a few years. In fact the first couple of years, the biggest mod for the V6 was a fish-tank-valve being used to increase the turbo's boost by bleeding wastegate pressure. Time will tell if the aftermarket makes a strong commitment -- and that will depend on SS/SC owners buying the products too.